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Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by dheera »

bborud wrote: post #126

Very, very interesting idea since this is probably easy to retrofit to houses that don't have room for elevators. But I think the video does a poor job of marketing the product. Too much "storytelling", they spend too much time "laying pipe" and the payoff is marred by "artistic" shots where clarity would serve better. And you can kind of understand how poorly the video is edited when the top comment is about the vid…

Also I wonder what happens when a moving part fails and they get stuck with nobody at home ... seems like all it would take is a rat to chew on that cord for a catastrophic failure.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by mewse-hn »

alan-crowe wrote: post #150

I couldn't see the counter-weight. A counter-weight matched to the sole user (able-bodied take the stairs) would make a huge difference to the muscular effort involved in getting up and down. This seems to be about halving the strength requirement because you can use both legs on every step, while also eliminating the balance and coordination requirements of climbing and descending stairs. Maybe that is all that is n…

I think there must be a counter-weight because they say the ascent is assisted but also that it uses no electricity. Counter-weight must be hidden or something.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

#154

Post by coldcode »

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #65
hetspookjee wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can imagine this is vastly more affordable than a mini elevator?

Probably, but it'll be vastly too expensive for most folks. I imagine the construction costs are greater than devices that use the stairwell due to design and anyone that lives in a rental or otherwise cannot do the construction are out of luck.

In the Netherlands I believe the government will pay to install assistive devices.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by qbasic_forever »

goldenkey wrote: post #72
fingerlocks wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how it’s taught in intro mountaineering courses. In the real world experienced alpinists carry a lightweight ascender, like a Micro Traction or similar, that can also be used for other tasks like hauling or fall protection for simul-leading.

Is that essentially a one way rachet? All you need to climb easily is prevention of regress and maybe some mechanical advantage, right?

Aid climbing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid_climbing It's using techniques like that to go up rock walls instead of free climbing the rock holds.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

#156

Post by inetsee »

dheera wrote: post #151
bborud wrote: post #126

Very, very interesting idea since this is probably easy to retrofit to houses that don't have room for elevators. But I think the video does a poor job of marketing the product. Too much "storytelling", they spend too much time "laying pipe" and the payoff is marred by "artistic" shots where clarity would serve better. And you can kind of understand how poorly the video is edited when the top comment is about the vid…

Also I wonder what happens when a moving part fails and they get stuck with nobody at home ... seems like all it would take is a rat to chew on that cord for a catastrophic failure.

I think that people who would need something like this would also be at risk of falling when just walking around. There are no shortages of devices that allow someone to call for help if they've fallen. And as for a rat chewing through a cord, the cords could be made from a material that rats don't find tasty, or the device could be made with cables rather than cords.

With the cost of assisted-living being high and getting higher all the time, anything that helps people live in their own homes longer would be a big help.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

#157

Post by syshum »

inetsee wrote: post #156
dheera wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also I wonder what happens when a moving part fails and they get stuck with nobody at home ... seems like all it would take is a rat to chew on that cord for a catastrophic failure.

I think that people who would need something like this would also be at risk of falling when just walking around. There are no shortages of devices that allow someone to call for help if they've fallen. And as for a rat chewing through a cord, the cords could be made from a material that rats don't find tasty, or the device could be made with cables rather than cords. With the cost of assisted-living being high and g…

This is the Automate car debate all over again.

Society is so risk adverse today that they do not want to allow anything that is not perfectly safe for 1000% of all situations that anyone can ever think of.

This device that would make people lives better will likely be bogged down in 1000's of "safety" regulations around 1:1,000,000 chance events of "what if a rat chews on the cord , while at the same time a bird lands on the power cable that kills the power, while at the same time someone hits a utility pole taking out the phones.... Clearly this product is unsafe"....

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

#158

Post by kabdib »

I think I'd hate to have to rescue someone from a Vertiwalk when they're midway between floors and having a medical emergency.

I'm sure there's an accommodation for this, maybe a belay system somewhere, but I didn't spot one.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

#159

Post by stuartbman »

I can see the use of this for neurological disease, but far and away the most common reason for a stairlift is frailty (or sarcopenia, to be more precise) along with other musculoskeletal conditions like osteoarthritis. Generally in sarcopenia you lose much more quadriceps strength, such that you find it difficult to stand up out of a chair, which is precisely the motion of how this is propelled. I'd therefore find this difficult to justify.

Secondly, stairlifts work because they are retrofitted into people's homes. This would require quite considerable changes to fit, and possibly loss of an upstairs room to make it work.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by hettygreen »

Why would anyone ever start a company building a product that helps people?? This is lame. There's so much more money to be made harvesting user data, or raking in dumb VC money with fake promises.

These dudes actually have to deliver a product.. lol.

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