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I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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(Ophthalmologist): To any future HN reader scared by those intraocular injections: don't fear them. I'm on my way to the operating room and going to perform cataract surgery under topical (=eyedrops only) anesthesia, as I always do, and as most surgeons today do. Patients won't feel anything except water slightly flowing on the eye surface. The surgical knife is 2.2mm wide : the 25 Gauge needle is 0.260mm wide. Anest…

Good lord just reading your description made me feel very uncomfortable.

Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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No offense to you, but this attitude is exactly the problem here. I know it's not rational to be very concerned about this, but I also know that the entire duration of that procedure, I will be thinking "KNIFE. IN. EYE." In the world I normally inhabit, knives should not ever be in eyes, so this is an incredibly stressful thought, stressful enough that I might do something crazy like MOVE WHILE A KNIFE IS IN MY EYE.…

This. I have an extremely strong blink reflex which I cannot overcome. The one time they tried to put contact lenses in my eye it took them 15 minutes to get them in and another half an hour to get them back out. It was one of the most stressful experiences I have ever had. It was over 30 years ago and it still makes me shudder to think about it. There is no way that I can possibly rational-ize my way out of that str…

Blink reflex doesn’t really matter. If it’s anything like my Lasik surgery, they insert devices (like Clockwork orange) to make it impossible to blink — who wouldn’t have the urge to blink when something is approaching their eye? It’s an involuntary reflex for self preservation. They also put a ring in my eye that made it impossible for me to move my eye whatsoever regardless of my urge to look away.

Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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(Ophthalmologist): To any future HN reader scared by those intraocular injections: don't fear them. I'm on my way to the operating room and going to perform cataract surgery under topical (=eyedrops only) anesthesia, as I always do, and as most surgeons today do. Patients won't feel anything except water slightly flowing on the eye surface. The surgical knife is 2.2mm wide : the 25 Gauge needle is 0.260mm wide. Anest…

I had a detached retina a couple years ago and it was super scary experience. I am back at 20/20 with some wonderful work by my doctors (and some intraocular injections, for sure), although I am terrified of it happening again with permanent vision loss

Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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(Ophthalmologist): To any future HN reader scared by those intraocular injections: don't fear them. I'm on my way to the operating room and going to perform cataract surgery under topical (=eyedrops only) anesthesia, as I always do, and as most surgeons today do. Patients won't feel anything except water slightly flowing on the eye surface. The surgical knife is 2.2mm wide : the 25 Gauge needle is 0.260mm wide. Anest…

Counter point: a few years ago my mother had a botched cataract surgery, she now sees worse than before.

Don't act like you don't take a chance on every medical procedure. Most of the times it's OK, but sometimes it's not. Then what?

Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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I've had 2 cornea replacements. In 5-10 years I'll need them replaced again, (and repeat until I die or go blind).

I was freaking out for 6 months about the entire operation. The more research that I did, didn't help. Even support groups that had gone through it didn't help. I was terrified.

The first eye: I took Xanax before the procedure, and they gave me something to calm me down. I was partially aware of life for 10 minutes after I was almost home.

The second eye: I didn't take Xanax, and partway through the procedure I woke up enough to be able to feel them working in my eye. I was calm and not bothered by it. It felt more like a tugging and pulling (like how your foot associates your shoe-laces being tied); but I was calm. The doctor told me to stop moving my eye. They must have given me something more, because I don't remember anything else.

It's an out-patient procedure.

If you are in a similar position and have ANY questions, I'll talk to you about it.

There will be a hundred people who say: "If I can do it, anybody can!" I don't want to be dismissive about your feelings. I was in horrible shape before the procedure.

But I will be honest with you and talk about it if you want.

Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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That’s an interesting idea. I think I’d be able to touch it, I know I’d dislike it immensely though. But this question helped me clarify my thoughts around this more. It’s the distinction between rational fear vs irrational fear. Assuming clean water the fear of opening your eyes underwater is irrational, it’s not going to hurt you or do any long term damage. The example from the story about getting an injection on y…

I seriously doubt you can rationally override your own emotions at any situation. And you should doubt that too, it can make you biased to think you're being rational without noticing you're not.

It seems like you are stretching my words here.

Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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This. I have an extremely strong blink reflex which I cannot overcome. The one time they tried to put contact lenses in my eye it took them 15 minutes to get them in and another half an hour to get them back out. It was one of the most stressful experiences I have ever had. It was over 30 years ago and it still makes me shudder to think about it. There is no way that I can possibly rational-ize my way out of that str…

Blink reflex doesn’t really matter. If it’s anything like my Lasik surgery, they insert devices (like Clockwork orange) to make it impossible to blink — who wouldn’t have the urge to blink when something is approaching their eye? It’s an involuntary reflex for self preservation. They also put a ring in my eye that made it impossible for me to move my eye whatsoever regardless of my urge to look away.

Yeah, I get that. The issue is not that it wouldn't work, the issue is that I think it would be more traumatic for me then a normal person, and I base that assessment on the fact that putting contacts in is more traumatic for me than a normal person (like "extremely traumatic" vs "something so non-traumatic that they voluntarily do it to themselves on a regular basis").

Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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(Ophthalmologist): To any future HN reader scared by those intraocular injections: don't fear them. I'm on my way to the operating room and going to perform cataract surgery under topical (=eyedrops only) anesthesia, as I always do, and as most surgeons today do. Patients won't feel anything except water slightly flowing on the eye surface. The surgical knife is 2.2mm wide : the 25 Gauge needle is 0.260mm wide. Anest…

What happens if a patient accidentally looks left or right during the surgery? I would be afraid of subconsciously/accidentally looking one way or an other during the surgery, but would that not cause a catastrophe?

The needle they use is short and does not extend very far inside the eyeball. (No, you can't see the needle.) If the eye jerks while the needle is inserted, it won't move far. Eyeball tissue is thick and strong and the presence of the needle will limit the eye's motion to only about 2-3 mm, doing no damage. The needle enters the side of the eyeball, peripheral to the sensory part of the retina.

An eye flinch is exactly what happened to me when I got my latest injection of VEGF-inhibitor to counteract macular degeneration due to 20+ years of diabetes. It was no big thing, just a little disconcerting.

Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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You can't tell me not to fear it. I have a HUGE eye phobia; I can't even open my eyes under water. It doesn't matter what anyone says, it isn't a rational thing.

Talking about eye surgery is like nails on a chalkboard to me. I don’t want to talk about yours, let alone think about mine. I have joked with my friends and family about giving them a limited power of attorney that in the case of eye or testicular surgery they can dose me with tranquilizers or anti anxiety meds without my knowledge and deliver me to the surgeon, having not told me that my surgery is today. They’re n…

Have you tried watching videos of surgeries to see if you can acclimatize your fear? Starting with something trivial like a skin suture or mole removal might be tolerable. Exposure therapy is an established way to gradually inoculate yourself against a fear that seems inescapably overwhelming.

Re: I was terrified of an eyeball injection

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You can't tell me not to fear it. I have a HUGE eye phobia; I can't even open my eyes under water. It doesn't matter what anyone says, it isn't a rational thing.

This is so bizarre to me, to be an adult and just unable to control your own body? I guess I'm lucky to not have this issue, but man it's so foreign to me that you can't even open your eyes under water.

Phobias are very common. Almost everyone has one, like fear of heights or being trapped in a small space. The fear is not rational, and the phobic is well aware of that, but simply knowing it's irrational doesn't help rid you of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_phobias

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