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Post by iammisc »

vettedvat wrote: post #141
iammisc wrote: post #123

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You're absolutely right. This is an unpopular opinion, but I don't think anxiety or depression are mental illness. They are just feelings. Your feelings do not make you ill... People attribute it to a 'chemical' imbalance, but your brain being run by chemical fluctuations, everything is a 'chemical' balance, including this comment I'm typing right now. What we've done is taken these brain fluctuations, and labeled th…

You're describing situational depression. Very different than major depressive disorder or dysthymia for which these drugs are often prescribed. Common mistake.

'Major depressive disorder' is just situational depression applied to every situation. Common mistake. Many psychiatrists and psychologists make the same mistake. Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety, so we probably shouldn't be looking to them for great advice.

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Post by wayoutthere »

prionassembly wrote: post #63
wayoutthere wrote: post #60

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I wouldn’t say women have it much different — I end up dating a lot of significantly younger men. It is harder to have much in common outside of physical attraction with someone too far from your age group though.

My wife is actually five years older than me. But we met on a night club and made out before talking too much and it stuck. I think we developed a crush on each other in the ensuing daytime dates, came to admire each other and recognize common values. But we had kissed first and tested the chemistry. People overthink dating and mating. We'd all probably be reasonably happy on arranged marriages. With apologies for th…

5 years isn’t that much difference and you still share some cultural overlap. I’ve dated people who are closer to 15 years younger and it was hard to have more than a physical relationship because our personalities were formed in such different contexts.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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Post by hellojesus »

ghostbrainalpha wrote: post #149
hellojesus wrote: post #120

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Thank you for your response. I appreciate it. The problem I have concerning diseases and prostitutes is that, although many get tested often, almost all testing excludes hsv and hpv unless specifically requested. And since ~12% of the population carry hsv-2, which can shed asymptomatically and be contracted from skin-to-skin groinal contact, it seems that it's an eventuality if I pick up prostitution long term, and t…

I was where you are for about 10 years. Don't give up hope, it can end. Also have you tried websites for "sugar babies" instead of an actual prostitute. Someone who is willing to get tested, and sleep with you regularly but doesn't have the same risk profile as a prostitute?

I've considered it but haven't had much luck.

For a period of time in the past I ran a small porn production shop wherein I would hire and then get recent test results from models. But TTS, the industry standard, doesn't test for hsv or hpv so I gave up while I was ahead.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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Post by vettedvat »

iammisc wrote: post #151
vettedvat wrote: post #141

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You're describing situational depression. Very different than major depressive disorder or dysthymia for which these drugs are often prescribed. Common mistake.

'Major depressive disorder' is just situational depression applied to every situation. Common mistake. Many psychiatrists and psychologists make the same mistake. Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety, so we probably shouldn't be looking to them for great advice.

Wrong again, a psychologist would not make that mistake. They know what those words mean; you just googled them. Luckily you didn't even try explain away dysthymia from your armchair because, well, you have nothing to stand on.

> Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety

Yikes, now we're just on to blind speculation.

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Post by rhinoceraptor »

voldacar wrote: post #134
speeder wrote: post #35

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Probably eating the oatmeal that made his cholesterol get higher. There are now tons of research coming out about how cereals (wheat and corn specially) are basically the culprit of a lot of diseases that in the past were blamed on "fat", and also that this past blame was partially due to corruption (for example coca-cola literally gave six digits money to Harvard scientists so they would lie and say sugar was safe a…

dietary cholesterol has a negligible effect on blood cholesterol levels. Almost all cholesterol in the body is endogenously created

There's a U-shaped curve for all cause mortality with cholesterol levels, just like anything else. Cholesterol is not bad, it's literally the building block of steroid hormones, vitamin D, etc.

Similarly, there's a good argument to be made that most people actually eat too little salt. If you compare most sodium guidelines to data of sodium intake versus all cause mortality, you're more at risk of death following the guidelines.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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Post by iammisc »

vettedvat wrote: post #154
iammisc wrote: post #151

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'Major depressive disorder' is just situational depression applied to every situation. Common mistake. Many psychiatrists and psychologists make the same mistake. Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety, so we probably shouldn't be looking to them for great advice.

Wrong again, a psychologist would not make that mistake. They know what those words mean; you just googled them. Luckily you didn't even try explain away dysthymia from your armchair because, well, you have nothing to stand on. > Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety Yikes, now we're just on to blind speculation.

> Yikes, now we're just on to blind speculation.

Not at all. More educated people tend to be more anxious and more depressed.

https://www.originsrecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/H...

The fact that we trust those more prone to depression to solve depression should not be discounted.

When it comes to 'dysthymia'. The only reason we find it to be a disease is that we expect people to be happy all the time. We've labeled anything other than that as diseased. As I stated elsewhere, I do not believe in happiness. Most of my day is spent neither sad nor happy. Were I to be sad all the time, I don't think that's particularly interesting either. Our society is not set up with space for people to not be happy. Society is ill, not the people.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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Post by vettedvat »

iammisc wrote: post #157
vettedvat wrote: post #154

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Wrong again, a psychologist would not make that mistake. They know what those words mean; you just googled them. Luckily you didn't even try explain away dysthymia from your armchair because, well, you have nothing to stand on. > Many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety Yikes, now we're just on to blind speculation.

> Yikes, now we're just on to blind speculation. Not at all. More educated people tend to be more anxious and more depressed. https://www.originsrecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/H... The fact that we trust those more prone to depression to solve depression should not be discounted. When it comes to 'dysthymia'. The only reason we find it to be a disease is that we expect people to be happy all the time. We've…

Your study says that some of 3715 mensa members were depressed. Not that "many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety." So yeah, blind speculation.

> When it comes to 'dysthymia'. The only reason we find it to be a disease is that we expect people to be happy all the time.

Completely wrong, again. You can experience situational depression without having dysthymia. You just don't know what these words mean.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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Post by vettedvat »

iammisc wrote: post #150
ghostbrainalpha wrote: post #142

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What are the traditional tools we can use to get ourselves out of depression? Exercise probably?

Community, shared culture, shared religion. Exercise happens when you do those three things.

All 3 are in abundance in Ethiopia. So why are depressive disorders so prevalent there? Folksy phrases aren't a great guide to mental health.

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Post by ljm »

lost-found wrote: post #94
ljm wrote: post #8

This was one of the factors that made me think twice about going back on anti-depressants, until I made peace with the fact that my ability to orgasm wasn't going to pull me out of the hole I was in. It's a shitty choice but the desire to not be suicidal forces your hand. It's literally like flipping a switch. One day, the plumbing works. The next day, it doesn't. Many times I'd just give up, out of boredom. The side…

You ever look into ketamine for treating depression? Self medicated this past weekend and had some major breakthroughs with my long time depression/suicidal intrusive thoughts. Nice thing is you don’t have to stay on it unlike other antidepressants—I would never do a medication that you have to constantly take.

I appreciate the concern but, honestly, it's exhausting to keep fielding 'have you tried...', 'have you looked into...', 'have you explored...' questions.

I get that it comes from a good place, but I'm sharing my experience, not asking for advice.

The best help you and others can offer is to just listen, instead of offering another solution.

There are two replies to me in the 'have you tried' vein. I'm not aiming it at you specifically, just trying to stop a pattern.

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