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$1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

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Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

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post #29

This made me check the prices. Apparently Bitcoin hit a new all-time high today at over $64k.

ATH is 64.8k iirc, so nearing ATH but not there yet. Watch tomorrow, First day of open trading for BITO ETF, might see a new ATH.

Wasn't today (Oct 19) the first day of open trading?

Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

#152
post #37

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I just realized that the Bloomberg reporter who wrote the recent story is named "Zeke Faux." ( Faux meaning "fake" in French, in a story about fraud.) Is his name a pseudonym? If not, it's another surreal point in a surreal story.

Zeke = ZK = zero-knowledge?

lol with a name like that its hard to not think its from a Charles Stross novel... ZK Fake .

good lord, the world is a strange place. or, we make it a strange place...

Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

#153
post #108

It may be counterintuitive, but the best thing that could happen to Bitcoin would be for Tether to collapse in a cloud of dust. Tether is continually cited as a large risk factor to Bitcoin by people who have gotten past the "it's not real money" objection. But I think it's worth considering what happens if the collapse never comes. If government investigation, findings of wrongdoing, admission of lies, and punishmen…

Each scam is draining some money from the market. All these scammers are siphoning of real money from the ecosystem each time.

Fanatic and devoted fans there maybe, however they don't have limitless fiat money to play with. In the recent past, new found mainstream popularity has fueled inflows into all kinds of crypto products sustaining the strong bull runs despite significant and clear risks.

This popularity has little to do with widespread belief in distributed / unregulated financial systems, and more because these assets have outperformed traditional instruments spectacularly, the allure of making ton of money fast. Eventually it will fade either because there is not enough new people who can/will put more money or an unsustainable growth tapers off.

When ( not if) the second set of players leave inevitably after enough scams, the hardcore fans that will remain and prop up the market and keep it going yes. However without non fanatic users there is not enough money to come roaring back like in the past.

To be clear, it may take a few years or more and few cycles of what you say, markets can stay irrational for a very long time, it is unstable equilibrium nonetheless, and eventually will correct permanently

Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

#154
post #11

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not clear if it is the easiest target to short, given that many people who use tether are fairly skeptical about how/if the tokens are backed by assets but use it anyway (if the recent Bloomberg story is accurate).

Seriously, how would you short Tether at scale? It's not like you can call up your prime brokerage.

There are entire textbooks written about how to construct options from a combination of short and long positions in different assets offset by borrowing. It’s not trivial, but it’s a well established discipline in trading world. For anyone that would offer a $1M bounty, it’s probably a talent already on the staff.

Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

#155
post #108

It may be counterintuitive, but the best thing that could happen to Bitcoin would be for Tether to collapse in a cloud of dust. Tether is continually cited as a large risk factor to Bitcoin by people who have gotten past the "it's not real money" objection. But I think it's worth considering what happens if the collapse never comes. If government investigation, findings of wrongdoing, admission of lies, and punishmen…

"What non-users don't get is the fanatical level of devotion by users. It waxes and wanes with the Bitcoin halving cycle, but always comes back stronger than before."

Indeed. 80-90% pullbacks, multi-year bear markets, the seasoned crypto trader has seen multiple apocalyptic financial disasters, where this simply is a potential next one. It fails to impress.

The really clever ones thrive from these crashes, that's when they buy. Volatility is the feature.

Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

#156

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But they can print more tether, buy bitcoin with that tether, and give you bitcoin as redemptions. This could go on for a very long time.

Can Tether give you Bitcoin as a redemption? Do you have a source for that?

"Tether reserves the right to redeem Tether Tokens by in-kind redemptions of securities and other assets held in the Reserves."

https://tether.to/legal/

Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

#157
post #85

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There are firms that look for good opportunities to short stocks. Find some credible bad news, short the stock, then publicize the bad news. If the news is actually true, this might even be considered a public service (as well as obviously a way to make money). They probably wouldn’t do until they actually got a tip. Also, they might short crypto-related stocks if that’s easier.

I am curious about how that type of activity doesn't constitute insider trading? Presumably having "bad news" would constitute material nonpublic information?

They do the equivalent of investigative journalism. Arguably everything they know is public, just no one has looked or put all the pieces together until they do a press release.

Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

#158
post #155
post #108

It may be counterintuitive, but the best thing that could happen to Bitcoin would be for Tether to collapse in a cloud of dust. Tether is continually cited as a large risk factor to Bitcoin by people who have gotten past the "it's not real money" objection. But I think it's worth considering what happens if the collapse never comes. If government investigation, findings of wrongdoing, admission of lies, and punishmen…

"What non-users don't get is the fanatical level of devotion by users. It waxes and wanes with the Bitcoin halving cycle, but always comes back stronger than before." Indeed. 80-90% pullbacks, multi-year bear markets, the seasoned crypto trader has seen multiple apocalyptic financial disasters, where this simply is a potential next one. It fails to impress. The really clever ones thrive from these crashes, that's whe…

I'm not sure you guys get this: Tether is the reason it comes back.

Tether drove the 2017 bubble (this is when Bitfinex'd got their start) and has driven the 2021 bubble to the tune of $70b.

This resilience wouldn't exist without Tether.

Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

#159
post #37

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Zeke = ZK = zero-knowledge?

I guess it's actually his real name, and Zeke short for Ezekiel isn't uncommon. But Zeke can also mean 'cloak'.

You've opened up a can of something. Check this out: Zeke = 4 letters. Ezekiel, the long form = 7 letters (note this number, cos it will come up further down). Cloak = 5 letters. 4 + 5 = 9. 9 is the number of spiritual adepts that govern the 7 Universes. 9 * 7 = 63. Add those two digits, and you get 9, again. See where this is headed?

Re: $1M bounty for details on Tether’s backing

#160
post #104

Tether is a cryptocurrency with tokens issued by Tether Limited, which in turn is controlled by the owners of Bitfinex

Isn't that absurd? Cryptocurrencies were supposed to be fully decentralized, and not require trusting anybody. This one depends on financial hacks done by a single private company. It seems like beenz.com, only with a different tech stack.

Oh, we're all equal and decentralized here, but some are more equal than others.
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