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Re: The next generation of AirPods

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Since these are rated for IPX4, does that mean you can clean them by washing with something that will dissolve ear wax? Could you clean them in your dishwasher? I have some of the original AirPods and I've never felt like I can get them thoroughly clean.

No, it means it can handle a small splash of water not a dishwasher cycle.

I have washed my AirPods pro twice when I forget they were in my pocket (outside the case), full washer and dryer cycles, and they still work.

Re: The next generation of AirPods

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The TL;DR on these is "AirPods Pro without ANC", but comparing the two models there are more slight differences such as skin detection and longer battery life. Given that, the $180 price point is odd because the Pros occasionally drop to that level on sale. The new AirPods (and now the old Pros) now have a "MagSafe Wireless Case" which is compatible with the MagSafe charger supposedly, although there isn't more info…

I wonder what the skin detection is for?

To play when you insert / pause when you remove.

Re: The next generation of AirPods

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Headphones are the use case I use the most to introduce people (usually younger people and students) to the benefits of low tech and overall to the benefits of less. I strongly agree with you. My headphones are 10€, last forever and I have 2 pairs in a drawer. I'm still 100€ below the cheapest airPods and no one ever complained. My phone is 5 years old, but since it does what I want: email, WhatsApp/Signal, Spotify,…

> My headphones are 10€, last forever and I have 2 pairs in a drawer. Amusingly and while I have never used airpod and generally get the gist of your idea, headphones are probably one of the product with the largest difference between entry level and mid-range in my experience . I can’t hear the difference between a 100$ and a 1000$ headphone but the 10$ one is easy to spot.

Agreed. My line of thought is that I don't want to isolate from the outsides because I don't like it and it's dangerous. So cheap is enough outside.

In more controlled environments (home, office), isolation is either a requirement (focus on meetings) or a pleasure (music) so I go for it and spend more on these areas.

Re: The next generation of AirPods

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As much as I liked my AirPods gen 1 and the features seem tempting, my personal experience with battery longevity on Apple headphones are not great. I’ve so far had the BeatsX, Beats Studio3 and AirPods. Almost all of them completely died within a year of purchase. The AirPods still work but using them is pointless since the battery life dropped to less than an hour so I just haven’t bothered. Mind you, this is not b…

I am quite astonished as I have the opposite experience. My Airpods only go flat during long phone calls of more than two hours and I had them for at least a year before the Covid lockdown. You have a larger n than I do, but still I am surprised that they would wipe out after a year.

I didn't really use them for voice calls myself.

I readily admit that I might just have been extremely unlucky, I don't know. I really didn't like having to throw headphones away just because they simply wouldn't turn on anymore so I'm just very wary of spending money on these headphones right now, especially since Sony WM-1000s are hovering at a similar price point and my experience with those has been very positive: almost 3 years in now and the pair of mk2s I have works perfectly.

If the battery was replaceable, even by professionals, I'd be far more likely to consider getting a new pair just because I miss them... and really, It's kind of a shame because the form factor and general operation of AirPods is really lovely, in my opinion. I was at first ready to be disappointed because they looked very similar to the wired ones Apple used to include with their devices which were awful, but I was very positively surprised.

Re: The next generation of AirPods

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I just discovered last week that on the Apple TV I can connect 2 apple audio devices at the same time. Currently staying with the in laws, daughter is sleeping in the same room with us so we couldn’t watch TV. I connected my wife’s AirPods to the Apple TV to watch tv and noticed I could connect another one, so I borrowed my sister in laws AirPods and connected them and both work at the same time. So now we can watch…

Does it really only work with Apple headphones?

That's terrible. I like Apple products but I hate the way they push to make things proprietary that could be open standard.

I guess that makes services "sticky" for a lot of people but it pushes me away from the ecosystem,

Re: The next generation of AirPods

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Honestly until you try wireless, you won't understand just how much better the user experience is to not have a wire.

Been trying for years - both. Still do. Not on a single day I’ll pick a wireless (read it Bluetooth, because that’s it is) over wired. Sound is worse, reliability is worse, power consumption is worse (and phone’s becomes worse as well) - I know a certain kind of users/fans have ready answer for this “duh! use a pocket nuclear reactor”, cost is worse, repairability is worse, usually looks worse. There you go.

AirPods use Apple’s proprietary W1/H1 chip for pairing, and it seems to make BT more reliable somehow. The impact of BT on the phone’s battery life is negligible.

As for sound quality, the Pros or a Sony WF/MDR are quite good. If you’re noticing significant reduction in quality you’re either choosing low quality ones or something else in the audio chain is wrong.

I actually prefer the Sony to any of my wired headphones (AT, Roland, Etymotic, Philips SHP) most of the time. The noise canceling and ability to turn my head / move about more than offset any loss in quality - which I’m unlikely to notice while working anyway.

Re: The next generation of AirPods

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They kept the case design that requires two hands to operate and prevents installing a tether clip. I have both AirPods Pro and Bose SoundSport. The AirPods Pro have good noise-cancelling. But the SoundSport clip to my shirt and so are always available. I can use one hand to put the right-side in my ear and press one button to turn them on and answer. I can also remove both earbuds and drop them. The tether keeps the…

It is really frustrating to put the airpods in with one hand, when you have already answered and holding the phone with the other. Happens all the time.

Re: The next generation of AirPods

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Cool that they look like Pros now, i.e. not like you put Braun toothbrush heads in your ear.

What I desperately need is a way to place an Airtag in the charger. Yes, I lost a pair of Airpod Pros some months ago. No idea where they are, perhaps somebody stole them or perhaps I just lost them in the house.

Re: The next generation of AirPods

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post #158

Cool that they look like Pros now, i.e. not like you put Braun toothbrush heads in your ear. What I desperately need is a way to place an Airtag in the charger. Yes, I lost a pair of Airpod Pros some months ago. No idea where they are, perhaps somebody stole them or perhaps I just lost them in the house.

The last time this happened to me, I waited until it was night time and very quiet and started to play music through them at max volume.

Re: The next generation of AirPods

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post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am quite astonished as I have the opposite experience. My Airpods only go flat during long phone calls of more than two hours and I had them for at least a year before the Covid lockdown. You have a larger n than I do, but still I am surprised that they would wipe out after a year.

I didn't really use them for voice calls myself. I readily admit that I might just have been extremely unlucky, I don't know. I really didn't like having to throw headphones away just because they simply wouldn't turn on anymore so I'm just very wary of spending money on these headphones right now, especially since Sony WM-1000s are hovering at a similar price point and my experience with those has been very positive…

There is a company that does battery replacement. I think they swap yours for a reconditioned one or pair, and then service the ones you sent in.
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