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Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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Post by TomSwirly »

j2bax wrote: post #91
swamp-agr wrote: post #47

The situation is quite interesting here. - Imagine, you're living outside of USA/UK/Europe. - Formally, it's possible to proceed with "Permanently delete my account". - You will even receive email assuring you that two weeks later profile would be completely deleted. - Then, couple years later you'll occasionally seen email from facebook that someone tried to log in into your ("permanently deleted") account. - You'll…

//Imagine, you're living outside of USA/UK/Europe. Are you saying that Facebook doesn’t enable full account delete outside of countries that require it by law?

They flout the GDPR, so why wouldn't they flout this?

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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Post by TomSwirly »

iforgetti wrote: post #84
swamp-agr wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree. - I explicitly check to avoid any "disabling". - The only intent was to permanently delete the account. - You can believe me or not and I did it really careful.

Move to a European country and Sue there for GDPR violation.

Hello from Amsterdam!

I'm confused. Are you expecting me to spend hundreds of thousands of Euros to get together a team of lawyers and spend years litigating with Facebook?

It's not even clear if I have standing. And what damages would I get? $3.50?

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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Post by TomSwirly »

OJFord wrote: post #130
cutler wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pre- or post-Brexit?

Why would that matter? Here are the changes: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... Afaik it's entirely administrative, e.g.: > ~~an adequacy decision by the Commission~~ relevant adequacy regulations under section 17A of the 2018 Act ('the Commission' being the European Commission, and no longer relevant.)

> Why would that matter?

Because since Brexit, the UK is no longer protected by the GDPR.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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Post by eddieroger »

tremon wrote: post #58
cascom wrote: post #53

Why would I want to delete my Facebook account? I abhor Facebook, I never log on, I haven’t used WhatsApp or Facebook messenger, etc. for several years, So I don’t feel like I’m giving them any information, but deleting my account only hurts me by giving away a free option? What am I missing?

You're adding to Facebook's network value by having a Facebook presence, however minimal you deem it to be. You're inducing other people into giving Facebook information on them by maintaining a Facebook account.

Isn't this why they consider Daily/Monthly Active Users and not just accounts? If I have a Facebook account that I never log in to, I'm upping their count of users, sure, but not the DAU/MAU count, which is what marketers care about for reach.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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Post by hdhdbid »

roydivision wrote: post #145

Most of the time tech companies have their fans and detractors. In virtually any discussion about tech companies, you’ll find people for the company in question, and others against, Apple and Google are great examples. I find it interesting that I don’t think I’ve ever come across any discussion about Facebook (and I read a lot of them) where anyone is defending them. Either people are strongly against the company, o…

At least in my opinion for this on HN, you get downvoted very quickly on HN to have such an opinion.

I work for FAANG. I generally dont comment on HN but recently I read every thread about FAANG to have a thread that read like you should be ashamed to work there. I replied, Even before i worked there, I used their products to keep in touch woth my family/friends, at a startup I worked at we used open source tech from these companies, I also have always benefited from owning the stock in my retirement account via index funds. So why is it that working for the company is not ok but being a consumer, investor etc ok. And also asked if there's an acceptable list of companies to work at without moral judgements. Pointed out that people have strong feelings about big tech, big pharma, big oil etc etc. As you'd imagine, I was downvoted pretty soon and you realize trying to convince a stranger on the internet is pointless and gains you nothing.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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Post by jasode »

roydivision wrote: post #145

Most of the time tech companies have their fans and detractors. In virtually any discussion about tech companies, you’ll find people for the company in question, and others against, Apple and Google are great examples. I find it interesting that I don’t think I’ve ever come across any discussion about Facebook (and I read a lot of them) where anyone is defending them. Either people are strongly against the company, o…

>I don’t have a Facebook account, so possibly all the positive discussion is on Facebook itself and I’m not seeing it.

We don't like to admit it but the HN demographic is a self-reinforcing "filter bubble" on some topics such as Facebook, Uber, Apple. Outside of HN, almost all non-techies I interact with don't complain about them.

I remember seeing a lady's gardening channel on Youtube and wondered how she got so many lucrative sponsorships since her subscriber count and view counts seemed too low. I later learned it's because the majority of her gardening fans' interactions and video views actually come from Facebook and not Youtube. Same for demographic of sewers for quilts & clothes.

So the Venn Diagram with one circle being female gardeners/sewers and the other circle being HN commenters have virtually no overlap. Hence we're in a filter bubble. The gardeners/sewers aren't complaining about Facebook because it's a positive in their lives and HN commenters never see that. I also read somewhere that Pinterest and Instagram are also more heavily skewed towards females.

(Because I don't have a Facebook account and got a lot of my info about FB from HN, it made me ignorant of the various communities that use FB in positive ways. I often wonder what other ways HN distorts my views that I'm totally unaware of.)

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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Post by simpss »

dougmwne wrote: post #149
roydivision wrote: post #145

Most of the time tech companies have their fans and detractors. In virtually any discussion about tech companies, you’ll find people for the company in question, and others against, Apple and Google are great examples. I find it interesting that I don’t think I’ve ever come across any discussion about Facebook (and I read a lot of them) where anyone is defending them. Either people are strongly against the company, o…

I'll step into that role then. I am a member of some Facebook groups that have been hugely helpful on a personal level. The community page software may not be perfect, but it is accessible and can bring together a really heterogeneous user base with diverse perspectives, much more so than Reddit. The groups pages are entirely separate from the toxic feed. I would be absolutely bummed if they were to blink out of exis…

As a counter point to this. Facebook has (tried and mostly succeeded) to replace community forums that used to be either public or with open registration and without the negative effects of facebook.

Stuff that's running phpbb or other similar software.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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Post by aritmo »

I do not understand what is the fuss about deleting your Facebook account.

1. Create a VPS 2. Install one of those Facebook scraping tools 3. Use your account credentials and start scraping. 4, Facebook will freak out, lock you out and ask for passport and ID cards. Do not provide any.

During their next account purge, they will remove your account.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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Post by OJFord »

TomSwirly wrote: post #153
OJFord wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would that matter? Here are the changes: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... Afaik it's entirely administrative, e.g.: > ~~an adequacy decision by the Commission~~ relevant adequacy regulations under section 17A of the 2018 Act ('the Commission' being the European Commission, and no longer relevant.)

> Why would that matter? Because since Brexit, the UK is no longer protected by the GDPR.

That is perhaps pedantically true in a way you almost certainly don't mean, that there is no longer 'the GDPR', there is now the EU's GDPR and the UK's GDPR (both using that name) ... but basically false.

As I said above, it was kept with the necessary amendments. That documents title: GDPR - Keeling Schedule. Introductory paragraph:

> This schedule has been prepared by the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. It is intended for illustrative purposes only to assist the reader in understanding the changes to be made to the retained General Data Protection Regulation by the Data Protection, Privacy and Electronic Communications (Amendments etc)(EU Exit) Regulations 2019 (as amended by the Data Protection, Privacy and Electronic Communications (Amendments etc)(EU Exit) Regulations 2020 (subject to Parliamentary approval) when these come into force.

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