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Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

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Hm. My bet would be that you can now count the number of years until imgur links go dead on one hand. This prompted me to check whether there were any backup efforts already, and how much data that would involve. Indeed, archiveteam has some good info: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Imgur > Imgur serves a massive amount of traffic. In 2012 alone, 42 petabytes of data were transferred. Fortunately, the amount…

I would change any links you have pointing to Imgur. But as for storing the contents, wasn’t it just a site for memes? I can’t recall a single time over many years seeing anything worth preserving that wasn’t essentially throwaway content.

Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

#152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where have you had success with hosting outside the usual aws/gap/etc? It seems like digital ocean has a bit cheaper bandwidth, but curious if you have a better recommendation!

DataPacket has a lot of locations globally (compared to Hetzner), though you're going to need to spend more than a few dollars to get started.

Not only to get started. What costs me €20 on hetzner costs me $800 on DataPacket.

That’s quite a difference.

Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

#153

Imgur, great service, lasted this long, amazing. But I always wondered how any of these random image hosts afforded bandwidth (reminds of the other various ones like TwitPic who was saved from being taken offline by Twitter). I mean, I have a gallery of images in there, privately stored, directly linked to here and there around the net, without paying for anything for years. I think at one point I can't even remember…

> But I always wondered how any of these random image hosts afforded bandwidth ... reminds of the other various ones like TwitPic who was saved from being taken offline by Twitter

Image hosting is relatively cheap, so you can have good margins if you can get a lot of use and fill the ad inventory. The way you do it, is by running as thin of an operation as possible.

When the first wave of one-click image hosts were popping up back in 2004-2005 roughly, I noticed one called ImageVenue. The founder, Vlad, was out of Eastern Europe somewhere. I emailed him and bought advertising, the price was right and he had a lot of impressions to fill. Back then he was just buying tons of $40/month dedicated servers from one specific host, using a img7.imagevenue.com scheme for each machine, and filling up the boxes. You can still use ImageVenue.com 17 years later, even though the traffic for the service has never been what it was during the early peak years (tons of image hosting competition swamped the market). I had a running dialogue with Vlad across about a year, he also mentioned in discussing Ajax (early popularity days for Ajax) use at the time, that he wasn't familiar with it and was "only really good with C++ and PHP". So I assume some of it was built in PHP. He was managing ads in-house, where he handled each sale by email, negotiating impressions and duration each month.

And regarding TwitPic, circa 2010: "TwitPic is generating $1.5 to $2 million in ad sales on an annual basis, with 70% profit margins, says its founder Noah Everett"

https://mixergy.com/interviews/twitpic-noah-everett/

Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

#154

Medialab's other things include like, Genius (ok, fair enough, sustains itself / useful/ well-used I'm assuming)....and Kik? The teen messaging app from like 2010 that no one uses anymore? hm Had to look a bit harder to even find their website ( https://www.medialab.la/ ) - 'a holding company of consumer internet brands' heh, sheesh, yeah that's not sketchy.

> Kik? The teen messaging app from like 2010 that no one uses anymore? I use to think the same thing, until I listened to this episode of Darknet Diaries: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/93/

After reading this, it's clear everybody knows (multiple legal challenges, involvement by MS...) and nobody with actual power wants to crack down on it. Safe haven or not, when authorities want to destroy a sketchy business, they have a number of weapons at their disposal. To me, it all suggests Kik (and by extension, possibly, Medialab) might well be some sort of law-enforcement front at this point.

Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

#155

Wasn't this the company that ostensibly began on reddit? Their founder used to post many promises about "not selling out" and the rest.

Ah, yeah, after the previous host was taken over. We all saw that for the lie it was after they took outside investment of course.

Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

#156

I can't share the love for Imgur: for some reason, all imgur posts, including this one, are never displayed on my mobile Firefox. Just blank screen, and that's it. (the only addon I have is uBlock origin, and I'm too lazy to try turning it off for some random images)

Imgur does this weird thing on mobile where it will always redirect you to some page where it can then nag you to download their app with grayouts, big buttons, and then a content feed they hope you scroll down on. It also downloads like 6 megabytes worth of local content. Doesn't matter if you are going to the imgur page of the image, or literally the URI to the image file itself.

Ah yes, the ol' app interstitial where they hound you to download the app by interrupting whatever you were trying to do on their site. I hate websites that use these.

Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

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Medialab's other things include like, Genius (ok, fair enough, sustains itself / useful/ well-used I'm assuming)....and Kik? The teen messaging app from like 2010 that no one uses anymore? hm Had to look a bit harder to even find their website ( https://www.medialab.la/ ) - 'a holding company of consumer internet brands' heh, sheesh, yeah that's not sketchy.

> Had to look a bit harder to even find their website ( https://www.medialab.la/ ) - 'a holding company of consumer internet brands' heh, sheesh, yeah that's not sketchy. I find it curious that there's no page about who owns/runs MediaLab. Not even a single blurb about their executives/management!

According to their public Statement of Information (https://businesssearch.sos.ca.gov/Document/RetrievePDF?Id=04...), the CEO of MediaLab.AI Inc is Michael Heyward, the co-founder of Whisper.

Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

#158

An image hosting site seems like one of those applications that are easier than ever to build but impossible to monetize. Most people who use imgur just hotlink - what's the incentive for a company to buy or start a new imgur?

Same as Imgur. The current image hosting sites suck and you know you can do better

Then it works and you need to pay the bills

10 years later you sell it and some new guy makes one

Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

#159
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything bought by Microsoft in the past 10 years. Minecraft, Github, LinkedIn, all are better products today than they were at the time of sale.

Sounds like the attention of those properties' users is worth more in some other metric than the maintenance/improvements cost in engineer time. I wonder what.

Minecraft drives actual profits on consoles - you have to subscribe to play with your friends. Some of these consoles (XBox) are even directly owned by MS.

Github is a massive piece in the developer ecosystem. It drives adoption of other MS products that can integrate with it, and generates a lot of goodwill towards MS.

LinkedIn, eh, that's probably the weakest property. On the other hand, it's massive in the enterprise space - again lots of goodwill, this time from "suits", and maybe some cool metrics about hiring.

Re: Imgur Acquired by Medialab

#160

As a side note I find it amusing how the HN community simultaneously obsesses over startups, equity, funding rounds, etc but gets grumpy when a company actually does sell. The cognitive dissonance is sublime.

I find it amusing that people think of "the HN community" as a singular mind or something

Different people respond to different things

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