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Are the rioters buying these or the people and shop owners who want to protect their property?

After seeing Korean shopowners in action during the LA riots in 1991, I'd always been curious how this scenario would play out in a country with gun control laws.

On a possibly related note, there don't seem to have been any reports of deaths yet (apart from the original suspect shot by police that seems to have been the spark in the powderkeg).

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#152
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That doesn't make sense, by the time you get the bat the riots should be over. Are the local sporting good stores all sold out?

If this is shopkeepers buying baseball bats it could be because faith in the UK Police to protect businesses was severely damaged over the last few days.

Summer's not over, and it could get worse. Get a bat on standing order for the future?

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#153

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I find that HN's comment policies seem much more relaxed on the weekends.

I find HN's comment quality relaxes on the weekends too.

I find that HN's post quality relaxes on the weekends, too. ;-)

There seem to be a lot more reposts and borderline-spammy self-promotion or poorly disguised press releases.

Re: 5000% Increase in the sale of baseball bats on Amazon.co.uk

#154

Baseballs are up 2500%. I am not sure these stats mean quite what you think they do.

I believe there is law that states that a baseball bat with no ball can be considered an offensive weapon.

that's why "Baden Baseballs (Pack of 3)" are up to 3000%

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#155

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Except that it at least prevents the discussion devolving into a long chain of jokes, like you see on Reddit, and generally keeps this kind of thing to a minimum overall on HN. There's a place for those chains of jokes, and that's mostly on Reddit (which I enjoy browsing often). But I would prefer to keep the discussion here on HN a bit more meaningful.

I think mkr-hn's point, though, is that Reddit may have joke chains, but HN has "tell-people-why-they-should-not-joke" chains. They're probably both equally time-wasting (this whole thread is a good example, and yes I'm aware of the irony of adding to it. Shit happens.)

Ah, but we also have threads with neither, or threads where the jokes have simply plonked to the bottom of the page with no discussion.

Re: 5000% Increase in the sale of baseball bats on Amazon.co.uk

#156
This reminds me of the recent video floating around the web (which I now can't find) of korean americans defending their stores in the LA Riots with guns and ad-hoc militias.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots#Riots_an...

The sometimes we take the idea of "law and order" as provided by government for granted.

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If a looter sees that someone has a metal baseball bat and doesn't decided to walk away, then they are responsible for what happens to themselves. Anyone with two braincells to rub together knows that if you go up against somebody with a giant metal club, you might die. Let's be honest here, these are not sniper rifles, in order for someone to be killed by someone wielding a bat defensively they have to opt-in. What…

In my experience of these London kids a lot of them are smoking heroin during these types of violent events, so I would be unlikely to trust their rationality.

A shortgun would be a better choice than aluminum bat in that case.

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#159
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Are you sure? I thought the nice clean knockout was a TV myth, and that any blow to the head strong enough to knock someone out is just as likely to kill them or give them serious brain damage. Basically, don't hit someone on the head with any baseball bat unless you're willing to kill them.

I am working from the assumption that aluminum bats would hit a person in much the same manner as they would hit a baseball. Aluminum bats are banned from major league baseball because the spring effect of the metal causes balls to go faster and farther. I imagine the same spring effect would cause more damage to a person hit with an aluminum bat. But yes, I agree that whether the person is hit with a wooden or alumi…

The deformation of the aluminum bat leaves it in contact with the ball longer, and the spring action transfers more energy. A human head will deform more easily than a baseball; blunt impact injuries are a function of momentum over time, so a bat that deforms on impact would do less damage. Any baseball bat can be used to kill by hitting people in the head though.

Re: 5000% Increase in the sale of baseball bats on Amazon.co.uk

#160
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Are the rioters buying these or the people and shop owners who want to protect their property?

Surely rioters? I find it hard to believe a shop owner is seriously going to try and hold the line by themselves against a mob. Also, a baseball bat is a classic disguised weapon but a shopkeeper will have no justification in having one so it is probably an offensive weapon in UK law. I've heard it said that D-cell Maglite torches are used by security guards not because they necessarily need a torch (a headtorch is g…

They don't have to be stronger than the mob, they just just to be stronger than the next shop.
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