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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by stldev »

S_A_P wrote: post #12

I have a 2018 Macbook Pro that had 1" of the touchbar stop working. I was quoted 1500 to replace it(did not have apple care as the 4 previous macbook pros never needed it) So I instead bought a new macbook pro and gave this one to my son. 6 months later the touchbar magically fixed itself... I really really really hate the touchbar.

Same, with roughly the same ridiculous quote. 2019 MBP touchbar died just a week out of warranty. Had it have completely died I would have been happier than the persistent flickering it now does. In spite of thousands of such reported problems, my understanding is that Apple refuses to acknowledge it as a defect.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

ehutch79 wrote: post #129
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even studios have budgets. I don't care about spending $6-15k for business hardware per inventory unit, plus you're not purchasing it frequently or in mass orders. The problem I and a lot of other firms have is the value you're getting for it. It's utter garbage, and has been all over the press for years now, so it's not exactly news. When big studios and little firms alike are complaining and asking, "Who exactly is…

I'm not really disagreeing with you on the value here. Just saying the target market is the kind of people who can just drop 10k+ and not care. 6k isn't realistically in the same price category.

For our business, there isn't a difference in between $6 or $15k, but most businesses aren't spending more than $15k per desktop-side compute station even when we max out specs from our partner suppliers, because for that type of budget you can work with very large amounts of data that hit RAM limits on workstation motherboards, versus just large amounts of RAM on consumer motherboards.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by amatecha »

cronix wrote: post #131
okprod wrote: post #110

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My MBP Retina 2013 has been going strong in various environments, not babied at all.

Same here. It's what I'm typing this on. The only thing I've done is replace the battery about a year ago. 7 years was a good run. Works 100% as well as the day I bought it and the last Apple product I've purchased. Took 10 minutes from walk-in to walk-out at a non-Apple branded Mac repair store for 70% of the price using the identical official replacement battery. No appointment.

Yeah, I have a 2013 MBP as well, and it has been problem-free. The battery still lasts hours! I think it's because I almost always used it plugged-in, so the battery has a very very low cycle count. I am SUPER impressed with how well the machine has lasted, considering my heavy usage of it!

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by ElFitz »

DerekBickerton wrote: post #5

I looked at this person's homepage: https://pqvst.com/ Looks like they use their Mac a lot judging by all the projects they're working on. I have a strategy that is common to all hackers / nerds / technophiles and that is: having multiple devices for different things. It's common to see in hacker circles: This laptop is for gaming. This other laptop is for freelancing & business. My other laptop is for toying / tinke…

I would rather do everything on a remote server, really, with a different environment for each project.

But that starts breaking down when working on mobile or hardware projects.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by lostlogin »

jppope wrote: post #146
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Apple is the master of planned obsolescence.

I see people say this but I can’t see that it it true. This current lockdown in New Zealand has 2011 and 2013 Macbook airs in daily use and they are working perfectly. There is an iPad 2 in daily use also.

Those devices have had hard lives.

I haven’t got any other electronics with anything approaching this longevity (unless you count espresso hardware). Presumably others are having a very different experience.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by pqvst »

TylerE wrote: post #92
pqvst wrote: post #64

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Honestly the swollen battery made me fear for my life any time I used it. On planes it would swell so much (even when turned off) that the keyboard almost popped out.

This is…unwise. I would never use a machine with a swollen battery, much less fly with one.

Indeed. But I had to take it back to Sweden somehow to get it repaired lol

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by zsmi »

asdff wrote: post #107
zsmi wrote: post #83

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Interesting. https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Retina+D... "MacBook Pro with Retina Display 15" Mid 2012 Repairability Score: 1 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair)"

Mine is the 2012 model before the retina display. Phillips head screws everywhere instead of the pentalobe. Open the case and you have access to everything. Battery can be replaced in 2 minutes. Hard drive in 1 minute. RAM in 30 seconds. Trackpad another 2 minutes after pulling battery. I even took out my optical drive and installed another hard drive in the bay since its SATAIII on that model. Then they came out wit…

Gotcha. That one did do significantly better.

It's interesting to compare that machine to today's. 5.6lbs vs today's 16" at 4.3lbs. 2012 is 0.93" thick and today's is 0.64". I suppose, based on this datapoint, we can say there is something like a ~25% mechanical overhead for "repairability" then.

"MacBook Pro 15" Unibody Mid 2012 Repairability Score: 7 out of 10 (10 is easiest to repair)."

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Unibody+...

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by l30n4da5 »

monkeyfacebag wrote: post #14
DerekBickerton wrote: post #5

I looked at this person's homepage: https://pqvst.com/ Looks like they use their Mac a lot judging by all the projects they're working on. I have a strategy that is common to all hackers / nerds / technophiles and that is: having multiple devices for different things. It's common to see in hacker circles: This laptop is for gaming. This other laptop is for freelancing & business. My other laptop is for toying / tinke…

I don't want to yuck anyone's yum but the thought of maintaining, keeping charged, finding room for and managing data on so many computers sounds like a nightmare to me.

the most I manage for machines right now is:

1 work-provided laptop

1 personal laptop

1 gaming desktop

1 backup laptop (old, like 10 years old)

1 closet server desktop (also old, but runs terraria servers just fine)

On my desk, I use 2 HDMI switches and a USB 3.0 switch to use the same peripherals and monitors for both my work laptop and gaming desktop. At the end of the day, I just hit the buttons on the switches to toggle to my desktop.

I have a USB-C dock that the work laptop plugs into. If i ever want to do work for my side project, I can unplug my work-provided laptop and plug in my personal laptop, and have the same setup as before -- just with a different machine.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by mehphp »

amelius wrote: post #142
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Put Linux on it.

Yep, I'm typing this on a '15 macbook pro with PopOS on it.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by gmac »

sombremesa wrote: post #88
pier25 wrote: post #52

It's absolutely ridiculous that Macs don't come with a 3 year warranty by default. I've bought maybe a dozen macs in the last 15 years (for myself and the family) and while some have lasted many years without issues, some have died on me on the second or third year. Because the initial investment is so high you're practically forced to add extra Apple Care to protect it because there's a 20-30% chance you will have p…

> Because the initial investment is so high you're practically forced to add extra Apple Care to protect it because there's a 20-30% chance you will have problems during those first years. Here's the inverse argument: it's absolutely ridiculous I have to pay 20-30% extra for my Macbook even though I don't care about the mandatory 3-year warranty. They should let me opt out for a discount! Well, they do. > you're prac…

If you make them guarantee it for three years (or perhaps five) you give them a stronger incentive to build it to last, and you can be sure it’s going to last that long. There’s a strong environmental (public good) aspect to this, so no, you should not be able to opt out.

I find it even more ridiculous that big items like fridges, ovens, and washing machines are also often only guaranteed one year. I think a ten year minimum would be reasonable for white goods.

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