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Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by agumonkey »

popinman322 wrote: post #87
agumonkey wrote: post #63

I hope not, I don't like the tiny realm vibe I get on discord servers. I find it too stiff and less friendly than most webirc sites (i know irc is not 10% of discord in terms of features but even then I find the added bonuses aren't worth that negative feeling.)

What do you mean by "tiny realm vibe"? Are you on mostly smaller servers, or is it unrelated to server size? You can definitely port the crushing silence/violent turmoil dichotomy of a large freenode room to Discord with enough users.

So often on discord i feel a vibe of "its our place our rules" something I never sensed on irc. People kick you blind at the first polite disagreement. IRC doesn't breed this to this extent even on the worst Channels I ran into. And o irc, kicks happen if someone abuses others a lot. Not if you voice a different opinion (again politely)

Hence my belief that discord makes people built tiny castles way too stiff.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by danuker »

cblconfederate wrote: post #121
tester34 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you name at least two other platforms that offer at least Decent chat (file sharing, emojis, support for code snippets), decent voice chat, decent streaming and supports PUSH2TALK button? and I personally prefer when it is not self-hosted due to DDoS risk, but it's not must have. and is e.g F/OSS? Because I'm unable to name and that's why I started using Discord

Would you also like fries with that? Of course you arent going to get the same for $0 (discord is not free, you re just wasting investor money). Mattermost is the best self-hosted alternative and it works great for the chat part. Dont know about the rest.

> you re just wasting investor money

While it's bleeding investor money, it's also grabbing your data:

https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/coo3h6/discord_use...

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by ohgodplsno »

danuker wrote: post #147
sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

Discord has done some shady stuff for quite some time. https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/coo3h6/discord_use...

Discord enumerates processes to discover OBS to turn on streamer mode, as well as being able to display what game you're playing. Disable the "share my current game" feature and there is no longer any ptracing

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by southerntofu »

lloydatkinson wrote: post #120
sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

> I wish more businesses could be content to just get to the point where they are making money, and then just keep making that much money and being ok with that. Blame execs and CEOs and boards for not being content

Blame capitalism for aiming for profit, not actual service to people.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by southerntofu »

hhsbz wrote: post #134
sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

I use discord only for gaming but the entire app was full of text strings that made me cringe. I'm glad they have got rid of them.

Do you have a few examples, for someone who's never used Discord?

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by rcxdude »

afiori wrote: post #112
ComodoHacker wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have different personas related to different parts of my life that absolutely should not mix Looks like the only one who support this is Telegram. Might be because they (supposedly) don't mine your data.

I am curious now can you explain more? As far as I know Telegram requires a unique phone number for every account on registration.

It does require a phone number to make an account, which makes actually creating multiple accounts a huge pain, but bizarrely enough once you have the account set up you can log into as many of them as you like in their mobile app (I don't think any of their 3(!) web apps support it though, but that's not hard to work around with containers). In comparison discord makes setting up multiple accounts easy but the app has no concept of this so it's a pain to manage (I don't know of a good way to have two instances of it logged into different accounts).

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by TchoBeer »

ejj28 wrote: post #38

Every single Discord-related post here I see comments about the "bad ux". I'm a heavy Discord user and I have no complaints with the UX, I find it pretty intuitive to be honest. I'm also constantly seeing people in shock that people would choose to use Discord over IRC/Matrix/Teamspeak/Mumble. I find Discord to be light years ahead of anything else available, and for an average person who's going to have a hard time…

>I'm a heavy Discord user and I have no complaints with the UX, I find it pretty intuitive to be honest.

You say this like they should contradict, but heavy use of Discord should only make the UX more intuitive to you. Maybe it's less intuitive to less heavy users?

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by danuker »

tester34 wrote: post #111
hamburgerwah wrote: post #105

Discord is the classic freemium monopoly trap. They want to capture market share with a walled garden and once they do they will alter the terms to milk out every last drop of revenue they can before everyone jumps ship to the new new thing.

Could you name at least two other platforms that offer at least Decent chat (file sharing, emojis, support for code snippets), decent voice chat, decent streaming and supports PUSH2TALK button? and I personally prefer when it is not self-hosted due to DDoS risk, but it's not must have. and is e.g F/OSS? Because I'm unable to name and that's why I started using Discord

Chat: Mattermost

Voice chat with push-to-talk: Mumble

Streaming: OBS

> and I personally prefer when it is not self-hosted due to DDoS risk

Only let your friends connect via Wireguard.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by hhsbz »

southerntofu wrote: post #155
hhsbz wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use discord only for gaming but the entire app was full of text strings that made me cringe. I'm glad they have got rid of them.

Do you have a few examples, for someone who's never used Discord?

https://i.imgur.com/dy13lcm.png

The entire app was full of crap like this - it's not funny or quirky, it's practically baby talk.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by southerntofu »

Amasuriel wrote: post #52

I’ve used discord for a long time and greatly prefer it to slack, teams and Mattermost (the three competitors I’ve used most often). Ironically the only think stopping me from strongly advocating for its adoption in business is that I’m already a user! Much like GitHub and to a lesser extent teams, they seem to not get the idea that I have different personas related to different parts of my life that absolutely shoul…

And that's why you want federated, pseudonymous networks and not a centralized walled gardens who gets to decide who you are and what you can do.
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