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TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by Dah00n »

Barrin92 wrote: post #89
310260 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People go to museums to look at art. That's solely consumption that does not require being literate.

Going through a museum, and actively studying individual art deeply is a very different activity mentally, and much more stimulating, than scrolling through a feed passively 15 second clip after clip. It does actually take a sort of literacy to understand and appreciate art. Go talk to anyone about art who has spent a lot of time studying it and then talk to someone who just walks through the museum to take instagram…

>much more stimulating

To you, yes. Not everyone is you though.

>It does actually take a sort of literacy to understand and appreciate art.

No it doesn't. It might add something (or nothing at all or detract from it) but if it is a hard requirement then it isn't art.

> Go talk to anyone about art who has spent a lot of time studying it and then talk to someone who just walks through the museum to take instagram pictures and you get very different answers about what they see.

Exactly, and both are equally correct in their view on the art pieces. I'm sorry but your post sound like one of those snob magazines that try to make art only something for the rich and well educated. It is neither. If anything money detracts from art and studying something too much can too. A young child can appreciate art by Leonardo da Vinci or Mr. Brainwash just as well as an art professor. They just appreciate it in different, equally correct, ways.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by slownews45 »

cronix wrote: post #73
mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

I'm getting a lot of lesbian couples in my feed. And there are extremely obese folks dancing on tiktok. So I'm not sure what you mean by tiktok getting rid of folks who are the target of harassment.

That said, I do think care should be taken to avoid exploiting folks on things like social media - and that's a bit too complex to discuss here.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by OldTimeCoffee »

Barrin92 wrote: post #89
310260 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People go to museums to look at art. That's solely consumption that does not require being literate.

Going through a museum, and actively studying individual art deeply is a very different activity mentally, and much more stimulating, than scrolling through a feed passively 15 second clip after clip. It does actually take a sort of literacy to understand and appreciate art. Go talk to anyone about art who has spent a lot of time studying it and then talk to someone who just walks through the museum to take instagram…

Reading this, I just want to see the "scholarly approach" to TikTok. That sounds like some nice performance art.

Alternatively, this is the kind of thing guys like Banksy and Warhol were doing with their art. It's a pretty narrow minded view of art to not include some of the stuff going on on TikTok.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by ceejayoz »

Drew_ wrote: post #147
cronix wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

You're not going to include the excerpt where a TikTok representative stated this was a bad practice and that they don't do those these things anymore?

I mean, that's about as credible as Facebook claiming to be turning over a new leaf on privacy, isn't it?

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by foldr »

warning26 wrote: post #118
cronix wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

On an abstract level, that sounds terrible, doesn't it? At the same time though, I feel like this seems like the "least bad" possible solution. If a subset of accounts are only going viral because people want to bully them, it seems reasonable to limit that content's reach.

Surely not. The best solution is to ban the people harassing others based on their sexuality.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by mtrovo »

Are we seeing apex Facebook?

I still have a lot of friends that use it daily but it's all for things that don't hold a company with a 1T market cap.

Anecdotal data:

- Facebook usage from my feed it's just older family members posting cheesy political posts and selling items on marketplace

- Instagram became a selling channel for brands, be it with their accounts or with "partnerships" with meme/influencer pages. I see less and less content from friends. SO has a professional account there, she always has the feeling that if she doesn't pay them her posts are rarely seen, even by people that follows her. I'm using it less and less every week.

- I still use WhatsApp a lot, and I'm quite scared how they could leverage their ad network with my private communications to improve bottom line

- I don't use and don't see the point of downloading Messenger, Threads, Reels, Lasso and any of the other weird knockoff apps they release every few months

I remember the last chapter of Chaos Monkey and the author hit a very good point that Facebook bought their extension ticket of relevance two times with Instagram and WhatsApp, since then (if you disconsider Oculus) the company didn't manage to create or acquire their next ticket. Maybe they're going the same route as MySpace?

edit: small typos, posted from phone

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by slownews45 »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #93
mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

> Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing It's been interesting to watch the steady decline of Reddit and Twitter since they launched. They've always had a significant amount of doom-and-gloom clickbait headlines, but in the past it was far easier to filter out the bad and follow subreddits or Twitter people wit…

Agreed - HN as well has been trending towards the outrage / doom model. The coverage of Apple just rips the worst articles (ie, apple committing child porn felonies), and the headlines are often wildly overboard (imply all Google workers going on strike etc).

TikTok has avoided that somehow - def more fun and interesting there - I do keep on getting exposed at times to somewhat weird idea, but a bit less of the yell in your face while clapping kind of stuff you see elsewhere so they are doing something interesting with their algorithm.

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