Some grisly perspective from the linked video:
"In 18 months, she saw more patients die than most nurses before COVID saw in a career."
Hospital exec says employees are walking off the job
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#152I am an EMT and talk to a lot of nurses, PAs, and physicians in various circles. This wave is worse for a few reasons. - Healthcare staff have great animosity towards the unvaccinated patients. They aren't victims here, they did this to themselves. Nobody can muster any more compassion, especially for these people. Patients and people at large, not even just the total-nutjob anti-vaxxers, are tired of restrictions. "…
> Healthcare staff have great animosity towards the unvaccinated patients. They aren't victims here, they did this to themselves. That seems strange to me considering there are TONS of diseases that are completely the victims fault. Diabetes, heart diseases, lung issues, etc can all be caused because someone chose to make unfortunate decisions. Why would you get into a profession where you're in contact with this kin…
One has a simple, free, and pretty readily available solution to prevent death. The others are not that black and white.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Vaccination reduces the exponential in the transmission Which trials demonstrated this?
All of them. Even if the breakthrough infections are the same as an unvaccinated person (still being studied, but I've heard everything from one third to same for the first six days), there are fewer infections overall. This causes a sharp average reduction in R0.
The injections were only found to be efficacious in preventing severe illness. Everything else is conjecture at best.
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#154Hospital workers are like education workers in that they are spoiled. (not all of course but a huge percent) Education workers already get over 4 months of leave every single year built into the job, they are almost unfireable for any infractions. Yet they want higher salaries even though in national stats they already make over the median salary by quite a bit. (yes there are bad pay areas) Hospital workers are maki…
> "they are walking off for extra bonuses"
What a bizarre characterization.
They're walking off because they're working in hellish conditions, watching people die with no resources left to help them.
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#155I am an EMT and talk to a lot of nurses, PAs, and physicians in various circles. This wave is worse for a few reasons. - Healthcare staff have great animosity towards the unvaccinated patients. They aren't victims here, they did this to themselves. Nobody can muster any more compassion, especially for these people. Patients and people at large, not even just the total-nutjob anti-vaxxers, are tired of restrictions. "…
> Healthcare staff have great animosity towards the unvaccinated patients. They aren't victims here, they did this to themselves. That seems strange to me considering there are TONS of diseases that are completely the victims fault. Diabetes, heart diseases, lung issues, etc can all be caused because someone chose to make unfortunate decisions. Why would you get into a profession where you're in contact with this kin…
True, but Covid has the additional trait of being transmissible. It's reasonably likely that anyone sick enough to need hospitalization passed the infection on to someone else at some point. And it takes just a few minutes to almost completely eliminate the possibility of hospitalization for Covid, but obesity (for example) could take years.
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#156I suspect one could go a long way towards solving this by announcing that unvaccinated covid cases will get zero health insurance coverage. Make exceptions for those that truly cannot be vaccinated but to hell with everyone else. Going further, make society difficult to navigate for people unwilling to be vaccinated or wear masks and our frontline workers will have much better lives. Why are we compromising our quali…
Also smokers? Also drunk drivers who wreck? Also people who abuse drugs? Also people without documentation? Also those who don't accept blood letting? Also people who make bad decisions?
Your freedom stops at others immune systems. Think of this as a choose your own adventure. And if you don't wish to be vaccinated or wear a mask you are opting into the road less traveled. What's with all this negativity?
But smoke all you want, they already factor that into health insurance costs. Drive drunk all you want, but don't whine if you get caught and they throw you in jail and take away your car and license. WTF undocumented sorts? You're all over the map IMO.
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#157Good for them. Despite the mantras of "support our frontline workers" many of these employees have been treated like shit by their employers[1], their government who refused to take measures to limit the spread, and their patients - some of whom will continue to actively deny COVID even as they die from it. [1] https://www.nwahomepage.com/knwa/mercy-employees-frustrated-...
If a company cares about you, it is shown in money. The People and Culture guy is a snake oil salesman meant to scam you.
Or maybe your mental health is shitty after intubating people and watching them slowly die, over and over for 18 months, with no end in sight.
Money can't fix that.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
News flash. There is no way they can get that money back. She can walk at anytime
This would largely depend on the particular contract. Money can be paid conditioned on an expectation of working for a period of time. Failure to meet your end can result in having to pay it back (in full or in part).
Case in TX where this was overturned. Employer was Buc-ees. The amount in question was far higher, about $100k, as the employee was given a $X/hr raise contingent on at least Y years of service. Court ruled contract violated right to work. This may mean bonus clawbacks can't work.
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#159The garbage fire of 2020 was almost worth it, it seems. First, the reconfiguration for hybrid remote work, but also - helping the "essential employee" class realize they have been taken for suckers. I can imagine it's hard to go back to pulling overtime around ungrateful anti-vaxxers, while the office TV is showing billionaires take off into space in personal rocket penises.
> while the office TV is showing billionaires take off into space in personal rocket penises. Stripped of the emotional phraseology, I 100% agree with your point. There is something pointedly psychotic about flying rockets just because when your employees are not paid or treated fairly. But that's just psuedo "capitalism".
> flying rockets just because
Hmmm... the Wright brothers flew airplanes "just because" and now we have relatively cheap, ubiquitous air travel. I'm happy to see Bezos and Musk investing in space travel - I think the end-result will be a positive for human civilization.