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The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

rasz wrote: post #143
FireBeyond wrote: post #30

Apple seems to be making a lot of display related things difficult lately. This, and Display Stream Compression are two. Just as high refresh and HDR were becoming really mainstream, Big Sur completely broke what was working flawlessly in Catalina (and it has not been fixed as of either 11.5, or the Monterey betas so far - and by completely broke, I mean does not work, at all, for anybody, not just 'some edge case').…

I dont understand, you want high bitrate accurate display to the point of actually considering XDR, but simultaneously you really want LOSSY compression? The not so secret secret of Display Stream Compression is it degrades picture quality.

Lossy compression methods are usually smarter at choosing where to degrade picture quality. E.g. reducing JPEG quality usually results in much better pictures at the same file size than reducing image resolution.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by mkl »

fighterpilot wrote: post #125
alin23 wrote: post #109

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I’m using Hugo as the static site generator (it really helps with blogs but I wouldn’t use it for simple presentation webpages). I started with the Blogophonic theme but I have heavily edited it since then: https://github.com/formspree/blogophonic-hugo Unfortunately I don’t have some pre-made theme that I can share, I mostly improvised with colours and styles that I noticed look good on other websites, then settled o…

If it's easy, do you mind sharing the hex for some of the colors, such as the background? You've picked a really nice combo of colors that I'd like to bookmark

These are easy to look up yourself with your browser's "Inspect" functionality. E.g. in Chrome, press Ctrl-Shift-I, click the tag in the Elements panel, and there's the background colour in the Styles panel: #fef7ef. If you don't use Chrome, it will be something similar; right click on part of the page and choose "Inspect" or similar.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by aduitsis »

garyclarke27 wrote: post #137

Yes why can’t a mac control the volume of an external monitor on usb c/display port/thunderbolt. It’s completely ridiculous when you think about it, that such a fundamental and important requirement for so many users, is completely missing, in 2021!

Control the volume? How about having sound at all? :)

Intel mac, usb-c sound to an external 4k monitor used to work flawlessly in Mojave. Big Sur, stopped working.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by aiisjustanif »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #18

Great write-up and a fun read. I was caught off guard by this note: > the delivery guy called me about a laptop: the custom configured M1 MacBook Pro that costed as much as 7 junior developer monthly salaries has arrived! I tried the MacBook Pro configurator and could only get up to $2300 USD (excluding optional software like Logic Pro). I’m sure the price and taxation are higher in the author’s country, but I still…

ITT: People learn than devs starting out in Eastern Europe can make under $500-1k a month net pay.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by justin66 »

klodolph wrote: post #140
kwyjobojoe wrote: post #135

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How to does breaking existing compatibility with 3rd party products fit in to that?

Are we still talking about a monitor stand? You can VESA mount the monitor if you don’t want to buy the stand. I think it’s assumed you’d use a third-party VESA mount, and the stand is there as an alternative for the few people who just don’t want that.. As far as I can tell, you can use a standard VESA mount, you don’t need some kind of Apple-specific one.

> As far as I can tell, you can use a standard VESA mount, you don’t need some kind of Apple-specific one.

To connect a VESA mount to the magnetic mount on the back of the Pro Display XDR, you would require Apple's $200 VESA mount adapter.

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Post by seizethegdgap »

FireBeyond wrote: post #30

Apple seems to be making a lot of display related things difficult lately. This, and Display Stream Compression are two. Just as high refresh and HDR were becoming really mainstream, Big Sur completely broke what was working flawlessly in Catalina (and it has not been fixed as of either 11.5, or the Monterey betas so far - and by completely broke, I mean does not work, at all, for anybody, not just 'some edge case').…

I remember when I first started my previous job in 2017, I opted for a MacBook Pro with a Dell D3100 docking station. When 10.13.4 dropped, I lost the ability to use some of my monitors. In the future, I won't buy from Apple simply because I'm not willing to replace all of my computer components for ones that are compatible with a walled garden.

https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/11880... https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/18493...

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Post by naniwaduni »

oblio wrote: post #149
IggleSniggle wrote: post #25

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Dev says right at the top of the entry that they are writing from Romania. Quick Google shows an average software dev salary of 4800 USD per year. If that’s average, seems like 7x monthly of a junior salary checks out.

The minimum net salary in Romania is about €280, which is about $360, which is about $500 net. So $6000 per year net. And no (u abused) junior dev is going to be making minimum salary, that's janitor salary.

> The minimum net salary in Romania is about €280, which is about $360, which is about $500 net.

This looks like you double-converted, and and also at an exceptionally high exchange rate.

And besides, we should probably be comparing euros directly to Apple's prices in euros, which, best I can tell, are in fact bigger numbers than their USD prices—the baseline offerings are listed at €1,449 and €1,679 (vs $1,299 and $1,499), and I can get the configurator up to €2,599, which puts us at a €370 monthly junior dev salary.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by watertom »

I just want my 2 external monitors to work, 1 in portrait, the other in landscape in my M1 MacBook Pro.

I bought a Pluggable doc, for $300, of course it wasn’t until after I couldn’t get it to work did Pluggable team tell me it wouldn’t work, “a known problem”, which they didn’t disclose. This was 7-8 months ago.

I needed the extra ports so I kept the dock, and used both monitors in landscape mode, it killed my productivity.

About 2 months ago I needed to reboot my machine, Zoom couldn’t find audio.

When the machine restarted one of the monitors was in portrait mode, it hadn’t been configured in portrait mode, but it was in portrait mode. I hadn’t done any updates, automatic updates are turned off. Then machine started with 1 monitor in portrait mode.

Everyone tells me it can’t work, Pluggable, Apple, Apple support forums.

This experience tells me the M1 release was half baked at least on the OS side.

The product was rushed to market maybe to capture market segment, maybe because component parts were already allocated, and shipping the M1 devices would help Apple to offset lost sales due to parts availability for the Intel Mac’s.

Hard to say, but I would have also expected something as trivial as rotating the display to be available without the need to buy a 3rd party $300 device, that isn’t supposed to work.

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Post by nuker »

alin23 wrote: post #114
ec109685 wrote: post #62

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He's using undocumented API's.

Yes, exactly. I’ve been using IOKit since day one which is pretty much completely banned from App Store apps.

But have you tried? I read first page I got, and it says "it depends" https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/51595

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Post by alin23 »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #136
alin23 wrote: post #107

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I love knobs (rotary encoders mostly). I wish they were in everything where you need to adjust some range like brightness, contrast, volume, color warmth. For some time I really wanted a battery powered wireless rotary encoder that I can listen to in Home Assistant and hook it to whatever I want but I couldn’t find anything like that.

Ikea made a rotary encoder (dimmer) like that with Zigbee. It works well with Home Assistant. It actually had an accelerometer to determine its position, so it could be rotated within a passive magnetic mount. Unfortunately they stopped making them. They replaced it with a square one that doubled as an on/off button. But perhaps you can still find some second-hand. It was in their Tradfri range.

I have about 5 or 6 of those square on/off ZigBee switches. They're perfect for automating through Home Assistant.

Now I just have to find those encoders you're talking about. It's exactly what I wanted to buy.

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