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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by jl6 »

paxys wrote: post #72
pjc50 wrote: post #38

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> anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting Have they, like, asked people? Also, do they need more people to tweet? It's not like the platform is short of content. Isn't there a role for the comfortable lurker?

Twitter started off as a low-effort life blog, and is now almost entirely a platform for amplifying celebrities and politicians. It definitely needs more normal people tweeting about normal things.

Twitter has loads of normal people tweeting about normal things, but they are down in the very, very long tail, and ~nobody follows them. Into the void they scream.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by leviathant »

tills13 wrote: post #28
leviathant wrote: post #17

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Be selective in who you follow, and if you're following someone who shares interesting thoughts but retweets too much, you can turn off their retweets. That in combination with being judicious on the block button makes Twitter one of my favorite social networks.

I agree with you but don't all the actions you mention turn Twitter into an even larger, more strict echo chamber?

To continue the analogy, I might say that rather than creating a larger echo chamber, it's moving into a well-tuning studio space. An echo chamber is cacophonous, a well-tuned room improves clarity by reducing excessive concentration of individual frequencies.

Arguably, the curative approach lets me hear higher quality content from folks who have different perspectives than me, compared to just leaving the floodgates open.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by thrdbndndn »

tsimionescu wrote: post #94

Is Twitter actually used outside the US? Here in Romania, where we rputinely import most aspects of US culture, it's almost entirely outside popular consciousness. Politicians and stars are certainly not using it - they're on Facebook and Instagram, and YT or Spotify for music. How is it in the rest of the world?

The country that used the Twitter most isn't even the US. Turkey, Japan, UK, etc. all use it more (per capita).

From my personal experience, Twitter is undoubtedly HUGE in Japan. Everyone and its dog use it, not to mention all the companies, personalities, etc.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by josephorjoe »

stalfosknight wrote: post #130
mdoms wrote: post #56

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Perhaps people are anxious about tweeting because a single tweet can ruin your life?

This right here is why I just lurk on social media. There are too many examples of a forgotten offhand remark, a harmless off-color joke, or that one time you had a bad day and thought you were just venting to the handful of close friends who are the only people you think even know about your Twitter account coming back many years later to bite you in the ass when a future potential employer (or goodness forbid the m…

Completely agree.

The last warning I needed was one time >10 years ago while listening to a song I really liked I just posted one of the lines from the song on facebook.

A friend of mine saw it and assumed it was a commentary on a political event that had happened that day (it wasn't) and assumed that it meant I held a certain political opinion because of this (I didn't) and then was suspicious of my claims that posting the song lyric meant nothing more than i was enjoying the song and felt like sharing.

Since then I always assume anything I reveal online will be taken out of context and held against me, if not immediately, some day...

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by tadzik_ »

gonehome wrote: post #99
thallavajhula wrote: post #5

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

Being able to set retention would make me feel better about tweeting. You can do some of this with third party tools, but it'd be nice to have it built in. I stopped liking Tweets though because it's actually impossible to remove more than 3k old likes. I was eventually able to do so, but it required contacting their DPO office and having them reset the cache each time so I could remove them in batches (entire proces…

> I'd also love a YouTube Premium style twitter where I could pay $10/month for no ads

tweetdeck.twitter.com is their first-party client that doesn't have ads (and also gives you an actual chronological feed and some other niceties).

Interestingly, it also never implemented Fleets.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by thereare5lights »

berniemadoff69 wrote: post #129
theshrike79 wrote: post #77

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This is why I purge my old tweets automatically. Nothing good has ever come from someone digging up old edgy tweets.

archive.org scoops up all kinds of tweets - deleting them isn't really a safe way to get rid of it, just fyi

Do those archive let you search for tweets?

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by skinnymuch »

gonehome wrote: post #110
vorpalhex wrote: post #103

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> block everyone who liked this tweet It'd be more efficient to have a twitter mode where you can only ever tweet, and not read anything other people tweet.

And also no value? I'm guessing this is primarily snark, but there are a lot of tweets that are pretty good signal of bad behavior. I'm not talking about some nuanced difference in opinion. For the tweets I'm talking about knocking out everyone that liked it wouldn't be a big deal. Sure some may use this to craft an echo chamber for themselves, but they're already doing that anyway - and a lot of people 'hate follow'…

I use likes to auto bookmark tweets to pinboard. Obviously I could figure out another workflow for this. But right now it’s super simple. It would be nice to not “like” tweets I don’t like myself but want to bookmark. Wonder if there is a low code way way around this.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by nerfhammer »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #31

The lack of innovation at Twitter, Instagram and Facebook is utterly baffling and points to a serious culture problem. Feels there are rooms of people now just being paid to clone successful features from other apps and only after those apps have carved their place in the market, literally become followers rather than trailblazers. In just a few years Instagram is going to seem completely old hat to anyone who didn't…

I've been thinking of it in terms of convergence, maybe they're all converging on the identical "optimal" social network.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by vosper »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #133
gonehome wrote: post #99

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Being able to set retention would make me feel better about tweeting. You can do some of this with third party tools, but it'd be nice to have it built in. I stopped liking Tweets though because it's actually impossible to remove more than 3k old likes. I was eventually able to do so, but it required contacting their DPO office and having them reset the cache each time so I could remove them in batches (entire proces…

What's the state of Twitter API these days? Can some company really build their own app on top of Twitter feeds?

You certainly can if you're a paying customer of their data services. Source: work for a paying customer.
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