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How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

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Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

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IMDb is owned by Amazon. Amazon Prime shows IMDb ratings in its app.

They display IMDB rating only for some titles and it has to pass certain level of rating ( 6 +)

And at least when I'm on it through my browser, I need to actually click on the title to see the rating, which makes it difficult to use it to filter out junk quickly.

Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

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I don't get why they wanted to go all out on AI for this. I use Netflix, and a simple algorithm would already be an improvement: - If I watched a movie and gave it a thumbs down, don't recommend it - If I watched a movie - If I browsed over a movie 50 times, read the info, and still didn't play it, stop recommending it. - If I watched the last episode, remove the "new episodes" banner. WTF

The most annoying thing about these streaming platforms is no IMDB rating being displayed. I have to type in every suggestion one by one which is annoying, or use a third party search engine. It'd be such a huge UX boost to simply include the rating, and better yet allow filtering by rating, I really don't get it. Perhaps they're trying to build network effects around their own rating system but it really detracts fr…

You can add IMDB ratings with extensions. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/trim-imdb-ratings-...

Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

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I cancelled Netflix subscription because I was not finding anything worth watching. I tried downvoting unwanted featured movies, they continued to be featured. Once my listing was filled solely with already watched or downvoted movies I cancelled account. I suspect that Netflix had some movies that I would gladly watch, but if they show what I explicitly marked as invented...

They need to buy better old movies. Their catalogue of award winning, or good movies is very low. I think the problem is the studios figured why rent them to Netflix when we can put up our own OnDemand service? So, Netflix was at a conundrum, "How do we get material so people won't leave, and we can raise our prices?" Overpaid Netflix MBA, "I got it! Let's throw money at directors, and writers. The directors will mak…

> They need to buy better old movies.

I believe it's much more in their interest to buy old TV shows. A good movie will keep you occupied for what, two hours? Seinfeld: almost 19 days of watch time. Friends: over 5 days. Community was barely ever popular before Netflix bought it, now there's plenty of people that enjoyed it for 2 days and 7 hours of watch time (its subreddit went from 266k on April 2020 to 482k right now).

I believe it's also in their interest to spread out stories that are realistically one-movie-long into 5-6 slightly drawn out 40-50 min episodes.

I just wish they fucking stick to them instead of cancelling them after like two seasons. Orange Is The New Black is the only original of theirs I know of that goes above two days of airtime.

Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

#154

I don't get why they wanted to go all out on AI for this. I use Netflix, and a simple algorithm would already be an improvement: - If I watched a movie and gave it a thumbs down, don't recommend it - If I watched a movie - If I browsed over a movie 50 times, read the info, and still didn't play it, stop recommending it. - If I watched the last episode, remove the "new episodes" banner. WTF

Completely agree. I am constantly baffled at the bullshit Netflix suggests me. I just went to the frontpage of my Netflix and...: - "My list" recommends 3 series where I have alread watched the last episode - "Only on Netflix" recommends another two series, I have already wathed. - A section displayed is "Watch together for older kids" - I dont have kids, never watched any kids stuff on my account. - "Documentaries"…

Related: Has anyone figured out how they determine the trending section?

It seems some shows have been trending for years.

Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

#155

I don't get why they wanted to go all out on AI for this. I use Netflix, and a simple algorithm would already be an improvement: - If I watched a movie and gave it a thumbs down, don't recommend it - If I watched a movie - If I browsed over a movie 50 times, read the info, and still didn't play it, stop recommending it. - If I watched the last episode, remove the "new episodes" banner. WTF

How the heck youtube algo is so good? Just start with incognito tab and once it hints your interest he can put you in Rabit Hole. I really dislike it. I wanted it to be more like netflix so I don't get suck in.

YouTube's is rubbish for discovery though I think, it just sucks you deeper and deeper into what you're already interested in.

Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

#156

I don't get why they wanted to go all out on AI for this. I use Netflix, and a simple algorithm would already be an improvement: - If I watched a movie and gave it a thumbs down, don't recommend it - If I watched a movie - If I browsed over a movie 50 times, read the info, and still didn't play it, stop recommending it. - If I watched the last episode, remove the "new episodes" banner. WTF

How the heck youtube algo is so good? Just start with incognito tab and once it hints your interest he can put you in Rabit Hole. I really dislike it. I wanted it to be more like netflix so I don't get suck in.

Since Youtube's inception I have never wanted to watch a single video that was suggested. I am really baffled how anybody can consider it good.

Could be a location issue since I am not in the US.

Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

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What’s odd is that the person responding in Quora who’s speaking as if he has authority on this matter started at Netflix in 2011, 2 years after the contest ended. The contest started in 2006 and was awarded in 2009. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netflix_Prize

Quora's culture is odd in general. Writing "authoritative" (even they're just LARPing as an expert) is basically why people go there in the first place. It's not uncommon to read something egregiously inaccurate written as indisputable fact. Good examples can be found in anything to do with history. On a funny note, Jordan Peterson used to be a well known Quora answer writer prior to his current career as an internet…

Jordan Peterson is a total fraud.

Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

#158

I don't get why they wanted to go all out on AI for this. I use Netflix, and a simple algorithm would already be an improvement: - If I watched a movie and gave it a thumbs down, don't recommend it - If I watched a movie - If I browsed over a movie 50 times, read the info, and still didn't play it, stop recommending it. - If I watched the last episode, remove the "new episodes" banner. WTF

The most annoying thing about these streaming platforms is no IMDB rating being displayed. I have to type in every suggestion one by one which is annoying, or use a third party search engine. It'd be such a huge UX boost to simply include the rating, and better yet allow filtering by rating, I really don't get it. Perhaps they're trying to build network effects around their own rating system but it really detracts fr…

They made a change at some point (2017?) so as not to show movie ratings. I figured the reason was to give low rated movies a chance because I won't necessarily dislike a movie with IMDB rating 5.2/10. I've seen excellent movies with rating 7.5 It's just that my taste sometimes doesn't match with IMBD users.

Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

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post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How the heck youtube algo is so good? Just start with incognito tab and once it hints your interest he can put you in Rabit Hole. I really dislike it. I wanted it to be more like netflix so I don't get suck in.

Since Youtube's inception I have never wanted to watch a single video that was suggested. I am really baffled how anybody can consider it good. Could be a location issue since I am not in the US.

You just need to watch few videos. Than it'll make suck you. I don't think it depends on the location.

Just browse some of your interest and you'll be in rabit hole. I don't know its so addictive for me.

Re: How useful was the Netflix Prize challenge for Netflix?

#160
Netflix suggestions used to be amazing, but sometime after their contest they totally changed how it works and they became useless. This article maybe hints at why with a short “predicting consumption was more important than ratings anyway”

why? what does he mean? netflix had a killer advantage with the old rating system and then dumped it why?

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