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I am sorry but I have no idea how one would come to the conclusion that 90% of journalists are engaging in intentional propaganda. I can understand if you think they have unconscious biases that influence their work, but believing 90% of the profession ix trying to actively manipulate you is just disconnected from reality.
> believing 90% of the profession ix trying to actively manipulate you is just disconnected from reality. As I wrote in the opening post, once one learns about how the propaganda is done, what the techniques are, you start recognizing it all over the place. It's like when I took some courses in sales techniques. Then, I'd go to buy a car, and sure enough, the salesmens' pitches were right out of those courses. I neve…
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Where did I say they're being taught?
It was sort of implied as part of the conversation, but I see where I misread that.
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The evidence that radicals have already successfully overtaken Western universities is overwhelming, and the evidence that these radicals are in the process of taking over secondary education is also readily available for anyone who is interested. If you are actually looking for some eyewitness accounts, Jordan Peterson has many podcasts where he interviews specific people that have experienced the ideological takeov…
There's no evidence in the parent, just the opinions of a few political actors. > radicals have already successfully overtaken Western universities Ironically, this uses techniques from the OP. It's an emotional appeal - calling people radicals, catastrophizing, etc. - but there's no evidence and really no information. Hyperbole eliminates information; it's like screaming 'we're all going to die!'.
There's a lot of good content in this article focused on the media. The media is highly visible and well-documented, so it makes sense. I'd like to see more content about indoctrination and propaganda happening in US education. This to me is much more insidious as it takes an impressionable populace (kids and young adults) and provides an authority figure (teachers and professors) that are largely hidden from public…
> indoctrination and propaganda happening in US education What evidence do you have that it is happening and on what scale? My teachers, all that I recall, never presented any opinion or perspective as truth. It was always about thinking critically for ourselves. If, for example, they presented a well-established view on the sinking of the Maine , it was as material for our analysis and evaluation.
Set aside for a moment the very fair questions one can ask about the trustworthiness of these images. Ignore for now whether this was shown to 5 or 5000 eductors, etc.
Let's just assume such instructions were in fact given to educators on some non-negligible scale.
Would that be evidence enough for you?
> Thus, understanding propaganda to guard yourself against it requires not only the use of sound and cogent logic and a set of facts, it requires being on guard against emotional responses. This, I believe, is so important to living in the modern era of constant information and media consumption at our fingertips. Reading (or even participating in) arguments online is one thing I see a lot of. Tons of emotional respo…
> How does one go about opening the minds of those already deeply influenced by propaganda? I have their trust, they still come to me and voice their ideas, however farfetched they may seem. Even if they know I don't believe them, they still open discussion with me. But I cannot seem to find a way to engage in their arguments while involving reasoning. Maybe you can checkout their single source of information, and ma…
- understand that in the others minds you are the one deeply influenced by propaganda.
- try to create a bridge, something you can a agree on.
- if the other person is a logical thinker you might apply to that. Even when you don't know who or what to trust you can go a step further. Example: The two identical twins in the intersection, one always lies, one always tells the truth. You need to know the way to Rome but you can only ask one question.
- be aware that sometimes it might be you who should cross the bridge. I've already done so anf it feels great afterwards.
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The evidence that radicals have already successfully overtaken Western universities is overwhelming, and the evidence that these radicals are in the process of taking over secondary education is also readily available for anyone who is interested. If you are actually looking for some eyewitness accounts, Jordan Peterson has many podcasts where he interviews specific people that have experienced the ideological takeov…
Jordan Peterson is the worst kind of bloviating bullshitter pushing divisive bad faith talking points designed to muddy and degrade debate, in my ever so humble opinion.
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> believing 90% of the profession ix trying to actively manipulate you is just disconnected from reality. As I wrote in the opening post, once one learns about how the propaganda is done, what the techniques are, you start recognizing it all over the place. It's like when I took some courses in sales techniques. Then, I'd go to buy a car, and sure enough, the salesmens' pitches were right out of those courses. I neve…
Just FYI this has name: The frequency illusion aka the Baader–Meinhof phenomenon. It’s a common cognitive bias. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion
> The aim of propaganda is to change minds via the use of emotion, misinformation, disinformation, truths, half-truths, and cleverly selected facts; not to enlighten (although one can technically propagandize true information, using emotion to sell truth, this generally isn’t what we are talking about when we use the term “propaganda”). My understanding is that experts consider the aim of propaganda to be confusing a…
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I think this perception of alternate realities is something the Democrats are actually encouraging. It makes perfect political sense to cast the opposition party as completely out of touch with reality. It also perfectly complements the existing sentiment of "reality has a well known liberal bias".
Ask Republicans who won the election, and tell me it's something Democrats are doing.