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Are you advocating illegally assaulting people for merely words?

Not assaulted but they will face repercussions. The expression is a common one for American native English speakers. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snitches_get_stitches

This expression comes from the getto's of America and it means anyone who tells the police anything will get hurt badly or their family hurt or killed.

Anyone who airs dirty laundry is called a gossip not a snitch.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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I waited until I was eligible, which was about a month ago. Anyone could have lied about their eligibility and gotten shots early, and although I wasn't comfortable doing so, I also don't begrudge people who did. Frankly, the vaccine should have been distributed more widely from the beginning. It was disheartening to watch the politics play out where only the "most deserving" people were granted vaccine, which quickl…

Actually at least in Massachusetts there was some rhyme and reason to vaccine priorities: the elderly and immune-compromised, frontline health workers, first responders, food service, teachers. I thought it was pretty much the same in most states. Anyway, the vaccine is pretty much generally available today, comparable to getting a flu shot. In some places, you don't even need an appointment; just walk in.

Yes in Oregon it was ultimately very similar. I was just perhaps a little too close and saw the sausage being made behind the scenes.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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> I just happened to disagree. Did you continue to disagree after the issue had been aired and a decision had been made? That could definitely end up in the territory you describe.

During these conversations, there were never clear signs that the "decision was made and the path was chosen". My concerns were usually replied with "huh, ok". Therefore, I continually brought it up, since it was my interpretation that people were not convinced yet.

Honestly it sounds likely that management didn't handle this well, but possibly you pushed things further than you should have because you hadn't received a clear (to you) signal to stop.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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I’m also surprised how many people bragged about jumping ahead in line when elderly people with much higher mortality rates were still waiting for theirs. At least keep it to yourself.

Jump to the front of the line? Do we still have a queue? I was able to get very prompt appointments and I live in a dense and relevant tech area.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Are you advocating illegally assaulting people for merely words?

in a way, he's saying snitches deserve to have their wounds properly sewn up.

in countries with free healthcare, everyone gets stitches when they need them, not only snitches..

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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What an excellent demonstration of what values/norms a group really cares about. Biggar violated the all time favourite in-group rule: Don't talk out of school. Don't talk about fight club. Don't snitch. The other founders violated a norm against pushing yourself ahead and taking advantage of others that doesn't even seem to hold in many groups, especially upper class/wealthy ones.

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Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Is Paul B getting kicked out the same thing as "cancel culture"? It seems like he's violated a rule of a voluntary group he was in, and was kicked out of that group. I know its subjective, but I don't think that's "being cancelled" in the sense that it's usually used. Its more like if you lost your diving license for speeding.

How do you hear it being used? Basically every time I’ve encountered the phrase, it’s referred to someone getting fired, kicked out of school, uninvited from a speaking engagement or something similar.

I suppose the term is used in lots of way.

For the most part though, it means getting fired/etc. over something that is unrelated to your work, rather than breaking a (literal or assumed) work rule.

I think it'd be more cancel culture to fire the other guy. He did something bad that isn't related to YC's rules, but maybe shows poor morals.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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At this point in the US, anyone who wants to get a vaccine can get one. That makes getting it a personal choice. Then you have this person try to damage Ycombinator because one of their founders spoke internally about the matter. Absolutely tactless. You'd expect future founders to be able to consider potential repercussions for biting the hand that's serving them.

"Try to damage Ycombinator"... How?

It's a divisive political topic, and he associated an individual post made on an internal Ycombinator forum with Ycombinator itself. Comments of individuals don't represent the company, and by framing it like he did, he publicly dragged Ycombinator right into the middle of a contentious political debate.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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The behavior he's calling out is obviously abhorrent. But isn't this more due to him airing dirty laundry in public? If this is his last recourse after consulting internally to try and deal with this, then I get it. But there is definitely a trend (maybe not by him) of people running to social media with their complaints before discussing them with those involved. If that is the case i would understand his being sanc…

Given that the people in question lack apparently any sort of civic virtue or else they wouldn't be engaging in this behaviour in the first place, where else do you propose one exposes dirty laundry other than in the public? This is exactly why people in positions of power are afraid of transparency and why there is such a anti-media bias in the tech industry.

At least we have a good example answer to “Please tell us about the time you most successfully hacked some (non-computer) system to your advantage”. Lie about eligibility to the health system, in order to get an advantage in the vaccine line! In a way, this behavior is kind of consistent with the “disruption” ethos of tech startups.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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We don't have full information about this story though. It may well be the case that the YC founder called out for lying about his qualifications for the vaccine was at a vaccination location where there were zero lines and poor community uptake of the vaccine. Idle doses sitting around doing nothing. At this point, the US has so many extra doses that it is shipping millions overseas. Depending on the location and ti…

I live in Oakland. This incident seems to be back in early March. Back then the large vaccination sites were all listed on myturn.ca.gov (ie the Oakland Coliseum). They'd post new batches of appointments and they would be all booked really fast (within minutes or hours). But Curative was also running vaccinations sites in Oakland and Berkeley. They weren't listed on the myturn website, so people didn't know about the…

The situation in Oakland was even more bizarre at the time. The state had generated certain “equity” access codes which would allow you to book non-public reserved appointments. The idea was that these codes could be used by members of otherwise hard to reach communities. Instead, they were shared by a bunch of local arts groups on Instagram. I’m sure they were abused. Witnessing that debacle made me lose a lot of faith in the prioritization as practiced at the time.
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