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Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by bwoodruff »

jacurtis wrote: post #112
lukevp wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitwarden is awesome, and super easy to self host with Docker. Heck, you could get a $5/mo DO droplet and host bitwarden_rs along with a static site or a bunch of other things! I wouldn’t suggest this to people who are unfamiliar with hosting, Linux, docker, and how to make backups, so the self hosting is admittedly limited in appeal, but even their SaaS offering seems like a great deal!

Bitwarden is a great alternative. But it must be mentioned that you need to be willing to accept the responsibility and burden of the operational overhead required to run it. I realize that most people tout self-hosted as a "benefit", and it might be a benefit for the demographic reading HN. But for the average person, self-hosting is far from practical. Most people can't realistically boot up a DO droplet and instal…

This whole comment was a great read, and parallels how I personally feel about self-hosting. I have a homelab with my own servers where I love to play with this kind of stuff. Do I want the responsibility of setting up and maintaining the 1Password service all by myself as a production environment? Absolutely not.

I have more infrastructure in my basement than some small companies have in their entire organization. :D But in terms of relying on that infrastructure, run by me alone, for something as mission critical as 1Password? I'll pass.

- Ben, 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by linsomniac »

brewdad wrote: post #119
jacurtis wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitwarden is a great alternative. But it must be mentioned that you need to be willing to accept the responsibility and burden of the operational overhead required to run it. I realize that most people tout self-hosted as a "benefit", and it might be a benefit for the demographic reading HN. But for the average person, self-hosting is far from practical. Most people can't realistically boot up a DO droplet and instal…

You're not required to self-host Bitwarden, it's simply touted as an option around here for those too paranoid to let a third party host their passwords. If you are already in the 'let someone else deal with it' camp, then Bitwarden is dead simple. It works everywhere and does a great job of keeping your vault in sync on any device. All for way less than 1Password.

Going to confirm this: BitWarden is dead simple to set up without any hosting requirement. There's an option to host it, which I haven't tried, because the base setup is so dead simple.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by blaydator »

I have always wondered why we can’t make visible the master password when typing it. My master is very long (pass phrase) and I have to type it very carefully, it’s even harder on mobile. Such a pain ! Isn’t it a basic UX pattern to allow the user to show/hide the password as type it (with the popular eye icon at the end of the password input) ? Am I missing something ? Is this not present for security reason ?

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by roustem »

CamJN wrote: post #89
bwoodruff wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the kind words! Glad to hear it is working out. We have beta support for mutual unlock of the Linux app and browser extension so you can unlock in the browser using your fingerprint. You can check it out here: https://1password.community/discussion/120745/a-better-way-t... - Ben, 1Password

Just a warning for people who don't know the parent is referring to the extension formerly called 1Password X (now just 1Password in the browser because AgileBits wants you to use that one) which puts ALL OF YOUR PASSWORDS into your browser's memory.

Why are you making stuff up, CamJN?

The extension is using IndexedDB to store the passwords and other items. A lot of work went into making sure the extension uses as little memory as possible.

Roustem Founder of 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by roustem »

CamJN wrote: post #141
Qub3d wrote: post #121

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This is an interesting concern, and you've pasted this identical comment at least three times in this thread. Could you elaborate or link to somewhere that explains this in detail? This comment on its own isn't very helpful.

This comment by me was wrong, sorry everyone. They’re NOT doing stupid crazy things.

> They do not say that they do not decrypt your entire vault into browser memory, because they do.

I am sorry but this is just wrong. I have close to 6,000 items in my 1Password across family and business accounts. Loading everything into memory all the time would be ridiculous.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by seppin »

trevor-e wrote: post #120
AnonHP wrote: post #101

PSA: Note that AgileBits intentionally hides the standalone license option and pushes subscription as the only visible scheme to get the application. This is a long standing dark pattern, and though the support staff will admit on their forums or here that the standalone license does exist, you wouldn't be able to find it without some special incantations on the forums. They will keep reiterating that it's for your o…

Yea I paid $65 for the standalone version back in 2016 which seemed really expensive for something that's essentially an encrypted database (despite its great UX). My reasoning is I didn't need any of the fancy family sync features and preferred to handle the syncing myself for free. They've basically discontinued that product and I can't update to their latest app since it only supports the SaaS product accounts. Co…

Also stuck on 1P 6.0. Paid full price, now slowly their browser plugins stop working etc.

Very disappointing.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by blaydator »

Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #116
AnonHP wrote: post #101

PSA: Note that AgileBits intentionally hides the standalone license option and pushes subscription as the only visible scheme to get the application. This is a long standing dark pattern, and though the support staff will admit on their forums or here that the standalone license does exist, you wouldn't be able to find it without some special incantations on the forums. They will keep reiterating that it's for your o…

The sync story bothers me. In my mind, Enpass is one that does it correctly. They don't offer a sync service, instead they let you choose from a number of popular ones (OneDrive, Dropbox, iCloud, and a few others), one of which you probably already use. There's no need for yet another cloud service to solve this already solved problem.

That’s the feature that made me switched to Enpass as well. Between the licence thing and pushing the subscription, I have lost trust in 1Password, even if it (still) offer the drop sync as well.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by roustem »

jdoss wrote: post #48
yxhuvud wrote: post #18

I've had the beta installed a long time but it stopped working a week or two ago. Perhaps I need to reinstall or something now that the main version is live? EDIT: Nope, still can't login. Bleh.

Do you have any 2FA setup? My work uses Duo 2FA with 1Password and I had to kick my Duo account into bypass mode to log in. I opened a support ticket with 1Password and they said it is a known issue with Duo + 1Password.

Yes, Duo 2FA is now supported!

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by bassdropvroom »

1cvmask wrote: post #140
bassdropvroom wrote: post #43

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Sure, but a browser extension cannot handle anything outside the browser. Which for many is fine, but there are still plenty of individuals who need that outside the of the browser.

Absolutely correct. For those edge cases there is a copy/paste available from the web portal or browser extension.

Pretty much all password managers I've used have had this. I see having to copy and paste more as a workaround for a missing desktop client rather than a solution.
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