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Re: Deno 1.10 Release Notes

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Post by paulddraper »

hackerbrother wrote: post #55
echopom wrote: post #8

Still not tempted by Deno to be honest. All the problem that currently exist in Node are being ported to Deno straight up. The built-in apis provided by Node.JS are almost non-existent... hence most of them are buggy and quiet tedious to use , it's why the community has created thousands of packages to resolve those issues. Here I don't see how Deno is solving this , all the APIS seems again so barebone.. instead of…

It might catch on, it might not. Not everyone has to like it. I personally do like it a lot. I think of it as Node.JS with a better organized core (with the benefit of hindsight), use of browser APIs whenever possible, and built in Typescript. I think it might catch on once we have some mature MySQL, Express.js, etc libraries. I know seeing popular tools be rewritten from scratch is tiresome, but I don't think it's u…

> you can execute a bunch of SSH commands simultaneously using the Promise.all JS function

It's just as easy in Python 3.5.

Plus async semaphore for resource limiting

And cancel remaining operations when others fail.

Python continues to be the ideal language for scripts.

Re: Deno 1.10 Release Notes

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Post by paulddraper »

paxys wrote: post #143
hackerbrother wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might catch on, it might not. Not everyone has to like it. I personally do like it a lot. I think of it as Node.JS with a better organized core (with the benefit of hindsight), use of browser APIs whenever possible, and built in Typescript. I think it might catch on once we have some mature MySQL, Express.js, etc libraries. I know seeing popular tools be rewritten from scratch is tiresome, but I don't think it's u…

I don't get the "built in Typescript" argument. Everything is running on V8 at the end of the day. With Node you run a one-line compilation step, Deno does the same thing just under the covers.

Maintainability I suppose.

Re: Deno 1.10 Release Notes

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Post by paulddraper »

runarberg wrote: post #72
hackerbrother wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might catch on, it might not. Not everyone has to like it. I personally do like it a lot. I think of it as Node.JS with a better organized core (with the benefit of hindsight), use of browser APIs whenever possible, and built in Typescript. I think it might catch on once we have some mature MySQL, Express.js, etc libraries. I know seeing popular tools be rewritten from scratch is tiresome, but I don't think it's u…

> use of browser APIs whenever possible Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Node.js aligning more and more with the browser APIs. For example if you `import { URL } from 'url'` you get the WHATWG standard URL object (it is also available as a global object). Node.js now has EventTarget and event listeners aligned with the DOM Event API. `crypto` is now a global object with the same API as the Web Crypto API. You have…

It also looks like Node.js is going to get import maps.

Re: Deno 1.10 Release Notes

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Post by manigandham »

hackerbrother wrote: post #55
echopom wrote: post #8

Still not tempted by Deno to be honest. All the problem that currently exist in Node are being ported to Deno straight up. The built-in apis provided by Node.JS are almost non-existent... hence most of them are buggy and quiet tedious to use , it's why the community has created thousands of packages to resolve those issues. Here I don't see how Deno is solving this , all the APIS seems again so barebone.. instead of…

It might catch on, it might not. Not everyone has to like it. I personally do like it a lot. I think of it as Node.JS with a better organized core (with the benefit of hindsight), use of browser APIs whenever possible, and built in Typescript. I think it might catch on once we have some mature MySQL, Express.js, etc libraries. I know seeing popular tools be rewritten from scratch is tiresome, but I don't think it's u…

You can use ZX to have Node in your shell: https://github.com/google/zx

Re: Deno 1.10 Release Notes

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Post by e12e »

nindalf wrote: post #53
e12e wrote: post #39

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I rather imagine we'll see a wasm vm/runtime in rust, and a typescript/js to wasm compiler written in typescript...

> I rather imagine we'll see a wasm vm/runtime in rust Like Wasmtime? https://github.com/bytecodealliance/wasmtime

Yes, but we would also need an event loop I guess. As I understand it nodejs is essentially a (c++) js runtime inside a c++ event loop. But I think we already have a rust event loop (or two?)
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