FBI subpoenaed Apple for data of Sci-Hub founder

Post by [deleted] » Sat, May 08, 2021, 5:50 PM UTC

ehsankia wrote: post #149

Vinnl wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, scientists get paid (usually) by their institution. Often, they'll even have to pay to publish ("page charges", charges for illustrations, etc.), and also to make it openly accessible (although to be fair, at that point their works aren't sold anymore; the author's payment is the source of profit). Even established, tenured scientists will often need to obtain grants and will still be judged by where they publish…

> No, scientists get paid (usually) by their institution I didn't say they get paid, I'm talking specifically amount the money flow to these journals. Does the funding from the research/scientists come from the profit the journals make, or from outside funding?

Post by [deleted] » Sat, May 08, 2021, 5:59 PM UTC

f311a wrote: post #30

slimsag wrote: post #14

Sounds like she's been in hiding since 2015[0]: > Following a 2015 lawsuit brought in the US by the publisher Elsevier, Elbakyan remains in hiding due to the risk of extradition; Elsevier was granted an injunction against her and $15 million in damages. Elbakyan and Sci-Hub were again involved in a US lawsuit in 2017, this time with the American Chemical Society. ACS sued the site for copyright and trademark violatio…

She lives in Russia and attends some local events. There is no reason to hide if you don’t travel outside of Russia.

Post by Rochus » Sat, May 08, 2021, 6:02 PM UTC

crumbshot wrote: post #109

crazypython wrote: post #100

Finally, news about a hacker on Hacker News! If you are a hacker, you: - Mistrust authority - Promote decentralization - Share knowledge - Write open-source software - Maintain the infrastructure - Serve humanity - Are curious http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

By her own words, in creating and maintaining Sci-Hub, Elbakyan was driven by communist ideals: https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc850001 https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc920674 Interesting to observe how it overlaps with this conception of the hacker spirit. If only the world had many more Alexandra Elbakyans, and fewer Elseviers. Humanity as a whole would be a lot better off without th…

Post by arp242 » Sat, May 08, 2021, 6:11 PM UTC

vaylian wrote: post #42

xNeil wrote: post #32

I'm not sure I understand the concept of paid access to scientific research, so I'd be grateful if someone with more knowledge of the topic could explain it to me. Governments fund universities, people donate large amounts of money to universities, and a large portion of the population has student debt because of how expensive tuition is. Why are they charging for access to research at these institutions then?

You are completely right that the current system is nonsense. It only exists, because back in the day there was no internet. Scientists needed publishers that would print and distribute scientific results. But publishers might deny publication in their journals if they thought the science is not good enough. Thereby the publishers established a reputation system. For example, it is really hard to get a scientific pap…

Post by arp242 » Sat, May 08, 2021, 6:19 PM UTC

crazypython wrote: post #100

Finally, news about a hacker on Hacker News! If you are a hacker, you: - Mistrust authority - Promote decentralization - Share knowledge - Write open-source software - Maintain the infrastructure - Serve humanity - Are curious http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html