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Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by opheliate »

TeeMassive wrote: post #122
verandaguy wrote: post #100

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I agree with you in principle, but I also disagree with your example. No doubt, China uses this kind of opportunity to spy on users, which I think is plenty good a reason to stop using Opera. OTOH, Google's also spying on its users for profit (at the very least). Please consider using Firefox. They're currently a very competent browser, and their principles are still rock-solid. If you still prefer Chrome but want to…

Mozilla has openly gone pro deplatforming recently: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-d... > Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silencing or permanent removal of bad actors from social media platforms. > Additional precise and specific actions must also be taken: > Reveal who is paying for advertisements, how much they are paying and who is being targeted.…

> Mozilla has openly gone pro deplatforming recently

The article you've linked does not specifically advocate deplatforming as I read it.

It begins by questioning when platforms should make the decision to deplatform, and who should have the power to do so:

> When should platforms make these decisions? Is that decision-making power theirs alone?

It implies that deplatforming is ineffectual, as there's no single voice which could be silenced to prevent hate:

> [...] the rampant use of the internet to foment violence and hate, and reinforce white supremacy is about more than any one personality

And it suggests solutions, which you have included in your post, which do not involve deplatforming, they involve transparency. It says, "Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silencing or permanent removal", which I suppose you could read as advocating deplatforming as well as their proposals if you approach the article with the intent to find that view, but given the context of the rest of the article suggesting that deplatforming doesn't work, it seems more like the author is suggesting that deplatforming be replaced.

It's a pretty wishy-washy article overall, and I think its suggestions are a bit hollow without more specific steps to take, but it appears to go to great lengths to not specifically endorse deplatforming. Reading what they have said as a call for such action, rather than advocating alternative solutions to the issues faced by social media comes off as disingenuous IMO.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by mrnobody_67 »

prepend wrote: post #52

Where is this money going? How are these prices set? I looked up a four letter .com I have and it’s $2400. Why? Other domains aren’t available yet. NFTs for names is a really good idea but it seems like the novelty is in getting acceptance and trust. Not sure why a random org should get really substantial fees for names. For ICANN we’re forced to. But for a good blockchain solution the prices should be equitable. I u…

There are only so many viable combinations of 4-letter domain names... $2400 seems pretty fair compared to what .com's of the same length are going for (50K-$1m+ for random 4 letter combinations)

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by apis_nearctica »

tpmx wrote: post #70
cbarrick wrote: post #50

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Any specific reasons to not use Opera? I actually just switched this week, being fed up with Firefox. So far so good. I very much like the UI/UX. I hope this isn't just another case of "China bad". Edit: Ah, I see the link you added. So the new owners seem shady.

I dunno, if Google was sold to a Chinese company (so, essentially controlled by the CCP), would that in your mind be grounds to avoid using their services, or just another case of "China bad"? I'm guessing you're perhaps conflating criticism of China/CCP with recent idiotic attacks on random asian people in the US?

What are you afraid of a Chinese company doing with your data? Giving it to government agencies? Google already does that. If I had to choose personally I would much rather the CCP have my data than US three letter agencies. If you live in the US then the US government can do a lot more to you than China can.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by throwaway_isms »

atweiden wrote: post #93
throwaway_isms wrote: post #88

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>This sounds like a technology problem for which a public blockchain is but one possible solution. I don't disagree, and "blockchain" as used sort of is misleading because at this point their are many solutions within the blockchain technologies and it is still rapidly evolving. >If a court says your ex owns half of the shares in $WALLET, but the blockchain doesn’t, and $COMPANY which issued the shares is also subjec…

> You could hold a non-complying party in jail/contempt of court for one, this happens with real world assets that do not get turned over now. This doesn’t appear to resolve the issue of the blockchain reflecting a different reality than that decided by a court. > But again there are implementation of blockchain solutions, where say the Company that issued shares did so on a smart contract and with a Court order they…

>This seems ripe for abuse.

You proposed the hypothetical starting with the Court. If you want blockchain to preempt any court involvement your hypothetical needs to start at that point.

I think it is possible through the prisoners dilemma. Have husband and wife have a joint wallet from the beginning governed by smart contract with agreed upon prenuptial terms. Marital assets could go in and then upon divorce they be equally split, the husband and wife could be required signatures, but if only 1 signs the funds/assets are locked until both sign. Maybe in rare instance you get one partner willing to lockup the funds and sacrifice their own finances, but that the entire point of blockchain/miners and the prisoner's dilemma.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by throwaway_isms »

throwaway_isms wrote: post #87
lozaning wrote: post #36

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This is a great idea until you get hit by a bus and now your private keys are gone and your family can no longer recover your estate(house and investments). Should a mechanism exist in your system wherein-by your family can reclaim ownership without your keys, means that whoever the chain says owns something clearly doesn't actually matter anyways.

The unrecoverable private key is just one implementation of blockchain technology, there are various way to implement a blockchain solution to various use cases. BTW current centralized solutions to estate planning issues are not exactly that great anyway. it is not unusual for family not to know a will, insurance, pensions, and bank accounts even exist for deceased. Just look at the current unclaimed assets for dece…

A Google search shows I was way off the amount is $40-60B but I think there are additional sums not accounted for.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by atweiden »

throwaway_isms wrote: post #154
atweiden wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You could hold a non-complying party in jail/contempt of court for one, this happens with real world assets that do not get turned over now. This doesn’t appear to resolve the issue of the blockchain reflecting a different reality than that decided by a court. > But again there are implementation of blockchain solutions, where say the Company that issued shares did so on a smart contract and with a Court order they…

>This seems ripe for abuse. You proposed the hypothetical starting with the Court. If you want blockchain to preempt any court involvement your hypothetical needs to start at that point. I think it is possible through the prisoners dilemma. Have husband and wife have a joint wallet from the beginning governed by smart contract with agreed upon prenuptial terms. Marital assets could go in and then upon divorce they be…

What about people being sued for damages, or creditors laying claim to the assets? There are endless cases where a court can unilaterally decide your assets are not your assets any longer.

Also, your hypothetical solution to the blockchain not reflecting court orders in the narrow case of divorce law is to ensure every married buyer of a crypto equity has a prenuptual agreement in place in their crypto wallet. Can you think of any problems with that plan?

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by TeeMassive »

opheliate wrote: post #151
TeeMassive wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla has openly gone pro deplatforming recently: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-d... > Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silencing or permanent removal of bad actors from social media platforms. > Additional precise and specific actions must also be taken: > Reveal who is paying for advertisements, how much they are paying and who is being targeted.…

> Mozilla has openly gone pro deplatforming recently The article you've linked does not specifically advocate deplatforming as I read it. It begins by questioning when platforms should make the decision to deplatform, and who should have the power to do so: > When should platforms make these decisions? Is that decision-making power theirs alone? It implies that deplatforming is ineffectual, as there's no single voice…

The article explicitly calls fore more, implying in addition of. Mozilla's only reason of existing is Firefox and therefore their only way to enforce this kind of measures.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by Black101 »

Sevastopol wrote: post #114
Black101 wrote: post #113

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but is Opera operated by the Chinese Government? looks like it is from what you are saying but dang I have no clue.

> but is Opera operated by the Chinese Government? I said _cooperate_ (which means to assist someone or comply with their requests). I did not say Opera was operated by the Chinese government. > looks like it is from what you are saying but dang I have no clue. What I wrote might be confusing if someone did not know the definition of "cooperate", no fault. An example of what "cooperation" with a state might look like…

*required* to cooperate and cooperate are two different things.... i.e.: if I have to do what you say, I'm basically working for you (or a slave)

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by prepend »

mrnobody_67 wrote: post #152
prepend wrote: post #52

Where is this money going? How are these prices set? I looked up a four letter .com I have and it’s $2400. Why? Other domains aren’t available yet. NFTs for names is a really good idea but it seems like the novelty is in getting acceptance and trust. Not sure why a random org should get really substantial fees for names. For ICANN we’re forced to. But for a good blockchain solution the prices should be equitable. I u…

There are only so many viable combinations of 4-letter domain names... $2400 seems pretty fair compared to what .com's of the same length are going for (50K-$1m+ for random 4 letter combinations)

Fair compared to what? Why should the price for one be greater than another? The price of generating an NFT is the same no matter how many combinations.

As a user, I would not want willingly join in a new name system that benefits an arbitrary company so much. ICANN forces use of domain registrars so I have no choice. A future system should be better, I think.

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