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All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by Toutouxc »

walrus01 wrote: post #129
Toutouxc wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Air and Pro boards are quite different, surprisingly. Search for some teardowns. (Don't know the reason)

former x86-64 hardware manufacturer view: the max TDP in watts of a CPU that can reasonably fit in something as thin as an air is a lot lower than a macbook pro or similar cooling solution (combined heatsink/heatpipe/blower fan). in the intel world there's a whole class of CPUs that absolutely max out at 8W, 12W or 15W, you can go somewhat higher in a fatter laptop.

Both Pro and Air use the same M1 chip. Same performance, clocks, thermal output. They just handle the cooling differently.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by lisper »

dschuetz wrote: post #35

Why the chin bar? The could have easily removed it now that there is no logo on it, and the logic board footprint is now next to nothing. Their design decisions are just plain weird. Also, why is there no black version? No network ports? No USB type A ports? Really?

> No USB type A ports? Really?

There are lots of legitimate complaints about the iMac, and indeed the entire Apple ecosystem nowadays, but this isn't one of them.

https://www.amazon.com/Syntech-Adapter-Thunderbolt-Compatibl...

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by insert_coin »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #142
insert_coin wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you have a “charger” on a device without a battery. Power bricks are the most inelegant solution to a problem ever. Can’t think of a clever design to accommodate the features we want? shove it on a box and put it to the side. Lazy.

I mean it does help with heat and electrical noise isolation, plus if a manufacturer cared to they could probably add more heat fins on an external brick not constrained by the case.

Funny the current iMac has none of those problems.

And wasn’t the M1 supposed to be so efficient minimal cooling and power were required?

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by speedgoose »

selsta wrote: post #126
speedgoose wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's ridiculous that Apple ships 8GB configurations in 2021. My company bought me a MacBook pro M1 with only 8GB of ram by mistake and it's extremely frustrating to have so little ram. I look forward to replace it with a laptop with 32GB of ram. Meanwhile I run devops stuff in the cloud because the laptop has not enough ram for that. Once safari advised me to close the jira tab to save ram. Such a shame.

If your use case needs more RAM then simply chose the 16GB option. 8GB RAM is fine for a large portion of casual users and if it keeps the base price down I'm okay with it.

Yes I wanted the 16GB one since 32GB is not available yet on Apple M1. But Apple sells a premium laptop that is not good enough for many of their users. That's a fact. 8GB is ridiculous and Apple is rich enough to afford 16GB by default on their premium "pro" laptops.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by progman32 »

websites2323 wrote: post #130
dschuetz wrote: post #35

Why the chin bar? The could have easily removed it now that there is no logo on it, and the logic board footprint is now next to nothing. Their design decisions are just plain weird. Also, why is there no black version? No network ports? No USB type A ports? Really?

I’m going to go ahead and say if you haven’t gotten onboard with USB C by now you’re behind. It’s been half a decade since the USB A port went away on Mac. I know everyone has their legacy peripherals they love but... it’s time to move on.

The cutting edge Valve Index sitting next to me connects via type A.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by Rebelgecko »

easton wrote: post #93
Waterluvian wrote: post #28

The 4 identical ports, 2 with Thunderbolt icons feels like a real swing and a miss at cleaner UX. Is it really that infeasible to just make all identical ports behave identically? My parents have a story about how at age 6 I moved our Apple IIGS into my bedroom. They were more bewildered than angry. The one thing I remember is my older brother saying how because every port was uniquely shaped even a child can set up…

I remember when USB 3 was finalized and they introduced a MacBook Air, Schiller or someone was on stage and said “You’ll notice, unlike other pc manufacturers, we didn’t make our ports blue to signify USB 3 vs USB 2. That’s because every port is USB 3.” (It’s a limitation of the I/O bandwidth on the M1, which makes me wonder why they didn’t wait for a new generation before building desktops with it. Maybe they were a…

Which is funny, because on some of the early MacBook Pros with USB-C/thunderbolt ports, the ones on the left vs right side of the laptop didn't have the same capabilities

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by spideymans »

Shadonototro wrote: post #49

Beautiful, looks like the days of Apple and macOS overtaking Microsoft and Windows will happen very soon It's the complete opposite of the bloat culture from Microsoft and slowness of Windows 10 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide...

> Beautiful, looks like the days of Apple and macOS overtaking Microsoft and Windows will happen very soon

In the United States where one-third of computers on the web are already running macOS, sure. That definitely won’t be the case worldwide though.

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by konart »

dschramm wrote: post #40
dschuetz wrote: post #35

Why the chin bar? The could have easily removed it now that there is no logo on it, and the logic board footprint is now next to nothing. Their design decisions are just plain weird. Also, why is there no black version? No network ports? No USB type A ports? Really?

Dark grey is probably reserved for the iMac Pro. Spoiler alert: It will be the fastest iMac ever.

iMac Pro Officially Discontinued

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/03/19/imac-pro-officially-dis...

Re: All-new iMac features the M1 chip

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Post by slg »

The ethernet on the power brick is a great addition, but I wonder why they didn't turn that into a full hub with multiple different ports. There would be such potential for the Magsafe connector be the only cable connected to the device for a lot of use cases and could really give the iMac true in the home mobility.

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Post by kstrauser »

Shadonototro wrote: post #64
Flockster wrote: post #2

Did I see it correctly, that the iMac only comes with 8GB Ram configurations? Doesn't the MacBooks come with an 16GB option?

macOS is not windows that OS and the apps over there are supper efficient it is the same story as iPhone vs Android phones, android always needed 2x more ram/battery than iPhones because the android ecosystem is bloated and slow, just like windows

Yeah, no. I use my Mac for software development, and Docker eats RAM for lunch. I absolutely 100% would not own an 8GB Mac today.

I don't care how memory efficient a particular application is when the size of the data it's processing has grown enormously.

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