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Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by joshuakelly » Sun, Apr 18, 2021, 3:26 PM UTC

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #4

pcf wrote: post #2

On Facebook, you now can't post the link to this New York Post article: https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse... FB will also prevent you from posting the Newsweek article which describes how the platform is blocking the New York Post article. Same link as in the title: https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-prevents-sharing-new-york-...

Yes, but will they prevent you from posting a link to the HN discussion of the Newsweek article about them blocking the NY Post article? Is it possible that Facebook is a big enough share of the internet that they can block the Streisand Effect? My money is on "no".

> Is it possible that Facebook is a big enough share of the internet that they can block the Streisand Effect? My money is on "no".

The co-ordinated efforts of a small number of corporate actors probably is. We live in a gov-valley-sov-corp media ecology with fairly sophisticated mechanisms of message control. Maybe the old netheads were wrong about streisand effect - maybe that was a temporary material condition.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by dang » Sun, Apr 18, 2021, 11:40 PM UTC

Trias11 wrote: post #18

winstonchecksin wrote: post #6

We had BLM protests in my city. I’m all for the message behind it, but they smashed up mine and my husbands car windows. Should have taken advantage of the lax work from home policy and should have stayed home I guess? I’m no fan of the actual “organization” or the people behind it though, and it’s sad FB is actively censuring information.

In Nevada you can legally protect yourself and your loved one inside occupied vehicle (or house) during attack with a deadly weapon. Which means make a colander out of worthless idiot.

Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It makes discussion meaner and dumber. We're hoping for the opposite here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by dang » Sun, Apr 18, 2021, 11:40 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #52

Trias11 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Nevada you can legally protect yourself and your loved one inside occupied vehicle (or house) during attack with a deadly weapon. Which means make a colander out of worthless idiot.

If you think killing someone over smashing a window is reasonable you need to seek help immediately. Please talk go a mental health professional.

Personal attacks are not ok, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are.

Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by lenkite » Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 9:53 AM UTC

It's becoming more and more clear to most folks around the world that Facebook is effectively an Enforcement Arm of the US Democratic Party.

All news that is critical of USDP, its policies or its supporting movements will be banned. All actors that present such news will be blocked.

You WILL be Re-Educated for Your Safety.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by lenkite » Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 10:14 AM UTC

cousin_it wrote: post #53

nvr219 wrote: post #3

Of all the ways Facebook restricts speech on its platform this one is pretty low on the list in my opinion. Seems like that particular article has some content that violates their doxxing policy (whatever that is). Other articles about the same topic can be shared including from Fox.

I don't remember FB applying that policy when the NYT doxed Scott.

Liberal News Media can post anything they like. NYPost is on Facebook's scan-list after the Hunter Biden reveals and any critical news will be introspected and blocked.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by egberts1 » Mon, Apr 19, 2021, 1:03 PM UTC

buzzert wrote: post #99

egberts1 wrote: post #76

An automatic 30-day Facebook ban, this will get you. - Even if you posted it “privately” through Facebook messenger, yep, that’s too a first: 30-day ban. - Veteran FB bans.

> Even if you posted it “privately” through Facebook messenger, yep, that’s too a first: 30-day ban This is so crazy I have to ask, you’re serious here? You’ll actually get BANNED for sharing privately over FB messenger?

Yes, as of recently.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by krainboltgreene » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 12:32 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #133

krainboltgreene wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I didn't consent to that data to be stored in a public government database.

Real property transactions are public by operation of law. It’s been that way for literally hundreds of years.

But I didn't consent to it existing in a second database: Twitter.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by stretchymantis » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:03 PM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #71

I’m sure the 535 million people who recently had their personal information leaked by Facebook - the ones Facebook didn’t even bother to notify - will be glad to hear about Facebook’s strong stance against the sharing of personally identifying information.

Apples to oranges. You're referencing an incident that involves someone stealing the information from Facebook as opposed to Facebook intentionally releasing the information. One has no bearing on the other.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by stretchymantis » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:20 PM UTC

jokethrowaway wrote: post #19

schnevets wrote: post #8

My guess is a slew of "closely monitored" Facebook groups eagerly shared the article the moment it was posted and some machine intelligence auto-moderator immediately added it to a blacklist without any human oversight. The article itself is pretty even-keeled (although has that typical New York Post editorialized spin). The article mentions other, unaffiliated BLM groups have already demanded transparency to where C…

Considering they did this only for the BLM founder and for Hunter Biden laptop, I would say it's probably human action.

It's a reasonable decision to make if ya think about it.

First, Facebook has been under massive scrutiny recently for not exerting more control over combating fake news, fake accounts, posts that depict or could incite violence, etc...

Second, because she's leader of the BLM movement, I think everyone would agree that she is at a greater than average risk for being targeted with violence. If your position at a company requires you to identify such conditions and attempt to reduce this risk if possible, you'd likely feel a sense of responsibility to block the article.

Finally, given their recent string of negative media attention, finding themselves in the spotlight with accusations that they contributed to her harm were she to be attacked, is something they're likely keen on avoiding.

Re: Facebook prevents sharing New York Post story on BLM co-founder's real estate

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Post by kebman » Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 10:03 AM UTC

rendall wrote: post #146

kebman wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can expect to be fined millions of Euros by a great many European countries if they illegally censor private conversations through their platform, due to European law on the matter. Many countries over here have free speech laws that aren't as gimped as the American Constitution (i.e. that it's limited to state institutions and not muh private company).

Europe doesn't have strong free speech laws so much as strong individual privacy laws.

Well, I'm not an expert on European law, so I can only speak for my own country of Norway, who do indeed seem to have stronger legal support for free speech compared to the USA in this narrow instance, since our law also encompasses private organizations and companies. Well, at least in theory, since enforcement is of course another topic entirely. But then Norway does not have monopolistic communications companies like Facebook domestically. On the other hand Norwegian law is still applicable to Facebook so long as they serve Norwegians. This means that if someone with enough resources feel that his toes have been stepped on, then you can expect a law suit that Facebook may very well lose. Moreover strong organizations might take class action if they feel their customer or member base is being treated unfairly, especially if they think Facebook is somehow skewing Norwegian elections in their disfavour. Again, due to our strong law on freedom of speech (Norwegian Constitution § 100), Facebook might very well lose such a law suit if it were to happen.