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At Home with Down Syndrome (2008)

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Re: At Home with Down Syndrome (2008)

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BrandoElFollito wrote: post #150
robertlagrant wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the scenario mentioned, no one decided to have a disabled child.

See a few steps up in the thread: > For the last one I err towards it being a personal liberty to decide what life you do and do not bring into the world. But it does get more hairy when you start discussing public support in terms of resources to support the child/family. Then it is everyone’s business imo. But I’d imagine people that can afford IVF don’t rely on government programs to finance their life.

Yeah, I still don't see anyone there deciding to have a child with a disability.

Re: At Home with Down Syndrome (2008)

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

robertlagrant wrote: post #151
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See a few steps up in the thread: > For the last one I err towards it being a personal liberty to decide what life you do and do not bring into the world. But it does get more hairy when you start discussing public support in terms of resources to support the child/family. Then it is everyone’s business imo. But I’d imagine people that can afford IVF don’t rely on government programs to finance their life.

Yeah, I still don't see anyone there deciding to have a child with a disability.

What in "to decide what life you do and do not bring into the world" is not clear?

Someone checks for disabilities with their to-be-born child, learns that they have one and then decides not to abort. This means they conscientiously make the choice to have one.

I do not think this need to be debated further.

Re: At Home with Down Syndrome (2008)

#153

Post by robertlagrant »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #152
robertlagrant wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I still don't see anyone there deciding to have a child with a disability.

What in "to decide what life you do and do not bring into the world" is not clear? Someone checks for disabilities with their to-be-born child, learns that they have one and then decides not to abort. This means they conscientiously make the choice to have one. I do not think this need to be debated further.

> decides not to abort

That's deciding not to do something, not deciding to do something.

Re: At Home with Down Syndrome (2008)

#154

Post by BrandoElFollito »

robertlagrant wrote: post #153
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What in "to decide what life you do and do not bring into the world" is not clear? Someone checks for disabilities with their to-be-born child, learns that they have one and then decides not to abort. This means they conscientiously make the choice to have one. I do not think this need to be debated further.

> decides not to abort That's deciding not to do something, not deciding to do something.

This is semantics. Deciding not to do something is a decision one takes. It is not like there is no choice.

Re: At Home with Down Syndrome (2008)

#155

Post by robertlagrant »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #154
robertlagrant wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> decides not to abort That's deciding not to do something, not deciding to do something.

This is semantics. Deciding not to do something is a decision one takes. It is not like there is no choice.

Yes, and semantics are important. By your definition I make the decision every day not to end the lives of my children, who could for any number if reasons grow up to be a burden on the state.

Calling inaction deciding to do something is just a way to frame things to try and make action the default.

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