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Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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Youtrack has self hosted, free for less than 10 users so pretty easy to evaluate, and a migration path from Jira

Yeah, I've tried Youtrack and as much as I love most of Jetbrains' products, Youtrack just wasn't as good imo.

It's strictly better than Jira, so if you're migrating away from Atlassian why wouldn't you?

Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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I always wonder why Jetbrains YouTrack never gets much mention, it's a really versatile system. Though the real area where it shines is where you have multiple projects to manage and teams of people who are spread across multiple projects.

Because it has no app marketplace and targeted at tech people, not management. And management usually wins when they want everyone in one system. Also running both trackers is not an option b/c of the integration, licensing and support costs with little benefit for the management.

Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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Are there plans for self-hosted versions? That's pretty much the "if I will use it or not" question for me. Atlassian's killing of their self-hosted solutions for smaller companies is just really a shame.

It's a damn shame the ticketing / collaboration world is still moving to the cloud. 100% don't want my company's data on someone else's server. I also 100% don't want to have to use Remedy ever again

Remedy, I'm suddenly triggered :)

It must be 22 years since I had the misfortune of using that horror show.

Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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As to whether or not this is a Jira alternative the key points are: * made for managers, not engineers * app marketplace * self-hosting If one of the three is missing, it's not really a Jira alternative.

That‘s a bit dismissive. I know plenty of teams using Jira without needing this, and they‘re all unhappy with Jira anyway.

Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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As to whether or not this is a Jira alternative the key points are: * made for managers, not engineers * app marketplace * self-hosting If one of the three is missing, it's not really a Jira alternative.

Thanks for the feedback!

An app marketplace is something we absolutely aspire to. Our API is a modest start in that direction.

Self-hosting is very interesting and something we hadn't thought much about but all the feedback here on HN has really gotten us thinking. Also interesting in light of the fact that Jira is pulling back from its own on prem offerings.

Regarding being for managers vs. engineers, we're very much determined to be for the whole team. As managers ourselves we want to be 100% extra careful to not make yet another tool that the team thinks is "for us managers". We've never gotten much value from such tools ourselves.

Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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Yeah, I've tried Youtrack and as much as I love most of Jetbrains' products, Youtrack just wasn't as good imo.

It's strictly better than Jira, so if you're migrating away from Atlassian why wouldn't you?

That’s your opinion, in our opinion after evaluating it we didn’t feel as such. Not all tools work for every team.

Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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Are there plans for self-hosted versions? That's pretty much the "if I will use it or not" question for me. Atlassian's killing of their self-hosted solutions for smaller companies is just really a shame.

We've been waiting on this a bit to see if there's much demand for this and so far the answer has been "not much" but we're open to the idea. So the answer is "not right now". Good news I don't think it would be super tough for us since we're built using pretty boring tech (i.e. not a lot of dependencies on a particular cloud vendor), don't have a bajillion microservices, etc.

Talk to companies in the defense and health/medical sectors.

They often have regulatory, privacy, or security issues that require on-prem solutions. Even if one can get some sort of certification regarding those issues for a cloud solution, it may not be universal and can make things much more difficult to confirm that the cloud solution meets their regulatory, privacy, or security requirements.

Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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I tried clubhouse.io after seeing your note, and a few minutes into the demo (which was impressive) the site died (which was less impressive). And now "Unable to log in. We were unable to parse the server response. This could be a networking issue, so please try again later." Trying Kitemaker now and hoping the HN hug of death isn't approaching. First impressions: I appreciate the keyboard-shortcut-first UI.

Thanks! Just so I'm clear - it is Kitemaker or Clubhouse you're having networking problems with?

It was Clubhouse, and it was down for a while yesterday (I stopped checking after an hour or so)

Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams

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Regulated industry here, we can't use it if we can't self-host it.

Can I ask a probably naive question - is self-hosting the main requirement? Or are there other certifications that are required in addition to ensure, for example, that it doesn't phone home with your data? Or is all of that covered by the fact that you self-host and are in control of outbound traffic?

Not the person you're replying to, but in my case it must be self-hosted and be able to function while completely offline (and therefore no phoning home).
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