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Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Re: Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Post by benhurmarcel »

rootusrootus wrote: post #23
thefourthchime wrote: post #2

I love my M1, but does anyone else have horrific performance when resuming from wake? It’s like it swaps everything to disk and takes a full minute to come back to life.

Yes. This is actually a known issue, provided you have an external monitor attached; lots of people complaining about it. The Mac actually wakes up instantly if you lift the screen, but it usually takes 5-10 seconds before it will wake up the external monitor. Worse, for some of us when it does finally wake up the monitor, sometimes it wakes it up with all the wrong colors, and rebooting is the only reliable fix. (an…

Does this happen with the Mac Mini?

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Post by Cu3PO42 »

immigrantsheep wrote: post #144
mpweiher wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Minis and Airs start at under $1000, and they're all the same speed.

Air starts at $1500 if you're not in the USA

This isn't entirely accurate. The Air starts at 1129 EUR in Germany, presumably it's the same in the rest of Europe. That's 1344 USD right now, but that's not an entirely fair comparison since this price is after tax whereas the USD prices are generally before tax. Before taxes, the Air is actually 1129 USD in Germany (current exchange rate and taxes cancel each other out). More than a 1000, but significantly less than 1500.

Re: Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Post by neogodless »

zelon88 wrote: post #101

You mean to tell me that a $2000 Macbook is almost as performant as a $1000 PC? Tell me more!

Based on U.S. prices, it's more like $999 vs $609 for similar specs (but no doubt a nicer machine and much better screen/touchpad with the Air.)

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Laptop-Newest-Display/...

Re: Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Post by 67868018 »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #129
67868018 wrote: post #77

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Same monitor. The workaround is to put the monitor on a power strip you can trigger when you walk up to it. Hard power off/on of this monitor and it instantly displays for me now.

Found the same

I don't know why I got downvoted on that, it's strange advice but it really works

Re: Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Post by thesz »

Multiplier in M1 can be pipelined or relicated (or both), so issuing two instructions can be as fast as issuing one.

Instruction recognition logic (DAG analysis, BTW) is harder to implement than to implement pipelined multiplier. Former is a research project, while latter was done at the dawn of computing.

Re: Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Post by zelon88 »

neogodless wrote: post #153
zelon88 wrote: post #101

You mean to tell me that a $2000 Macbook is almost as performant as a $1000 PC? Tell me more!

Based on U.S. prices, it's more like $999 vs $609 for similar specs (but no doubt a nicer machine and much better screen/touchpad with the Air.) https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Laptop-Newest-Display/...

The <10 second comparison I did was between an ASUS A15 and a 16" MacBook. $1000 vs $2500.

Re: Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Post by matwood »

rootusrootus wrote: post #96
wil421 wrote: post #85

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Get a thunderbolt dock and you don’t have to worry about it. The dock also charges my MBA.

Which dock are you using? Caldigit? Those seem popular, but I see there are a number of options at every price point.

I have the OWC TB dock that was just released (and has been backordered). It works great other than the headphone jack has a slight hiss that I don't get plugging directly into the MBA.

Re: Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Post by matwood »

rootusrootus wrote: post #23
thefourthchime wrote: post #2

I love my M1, but does anyone else have horrific performance when resuming from wake? It’s like it swaps everything to disk and takes a full minute to come back to life.

Yes. This is actually a known issue, provided you have an external monitor attached; lots of people complaining about it. The Mac actually wakes up instantly if you lift the screen, but it usually takes 5-10 seconds before it will wake up the external monitor. Worse, for some of us when it does finally wake up the monitor, sometimes it wakes it up with all the wrong colors, and rebooting is the only reliable fix. (an…

I think they are still working through some external monitor driver issues. The colors on my LG 4k were initially way off until I did an advanced calibration. Occasionally waking up from sleep it will revert, but opening the Display preference and swapping between the calibrations fixes it. My connection is through usbc.

I don't have any performance issues waking up though.

Re: Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Post by rootusrootus »

matwood wrote: post #158
rootusrootus wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. This is actually a known issue, provided you have an external monitor attached; lots of people complaining about it. The Mac actually wakes up instantly if you lift the screen, but it usually takes 5-10 seconds before it will wake up the external monitor. Worse, for some of us when it does finally wake up the monitor, sometimes it wakes it up with all the wrong colors, and rebooting is the only reliable fix. (an…

I think they are still working through some external monitor driver issues. The colors on my LG 4k were initially way off until I did an advanced calibration. Occasionally waking up from sleep it will revert, but opening the Display preference and swapping between the calibrations fixes it. My connection is through usbc. I don't have any performance issues waking up though.

I think there are a couple issues going on with the colors. For some people it is calibration. But what I experience is almost like a color inversion (but it's not a full inversion, it looks like maybe one or two channels got inverted). Makes it difficult to even find the mouse pointer so I can get to the menu and reboot the machine. Then it comes up fine.

Re: Apple’s M1 processor and the full 128-bit integer product

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Post by tedd4u »

rootusrootus wrote: post #96
wil421 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a thunderbolt dock and you don’t have to worry about it. The dock also charges my MBA.

Which dock are you using? Caldigit? Those seem popular, but I see there are a number of options at every price point.

CalDigit TS3+ works great for me with monitor hooked up on DisplayPort. No delay on resume. This is the dock Apple sells.
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