MIT licence? Haven't they learned from others' mistakes? This sort of stuff should be AGPL licenced.
Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
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Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#152There's an interesting trend of open source clones of popular products. Most recent one that comes to mind is Athens [0] which is an open source clone of Roam Research. The business model is always that people who really want it for free can self host, and people who don't want to deal with the hassle will pay for hosting. Seems like a reasonable strategy to me. [0] https://github.com/athensresearch/athens
There is also Obsidian, which does not compete with Roam Research directly on all features (but comes pretty close), but is locally hosted. Great option for those seeking privacy of their notes and thoughts.
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
You mean things like Linux, LibreOffice, Any browser? The things that they are copying are themselves also copies of earlier products. Airtable can be traced back to MS Access, DBase and I'm sure there's even older examples.
I just said I'm not welcoming it. But I also distinguish between copying in terms of implementing the same protocol/standard and copying an innovative product that is unique (or was unique when it came out). I don't think in this discussion there is a right or wrong but I think that if you put 10 years of thinking into a concept and another person just copies it it's just not fair.
Low-code database builders have been around for a long time , Airtable did not come up with this concept, just a slick UX/ implementation of one.
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see the support excuse all the time, but I don't understand why it needs to be that way and I don't really believe it to be honest. Sell me a small business version that includes per-incident support. If someone has a problem and balks at the idea of paying fair value for the support they need, then I agree they're not worth having as a customer. If the goal is to ignore or be actively hostile towards the bottom 80…
Significantly damages your brand to do this and you'll defacto turn into a consulting company. Plus places incentives on your org to force things to be incidents since that's what pays. You'll get stuck in a local minimum of being a small-time consulting company. Or maybe you won't. But that's the reason I wouldn't want to do it. Besides, there's no way you can only access the no-support users. Google, for instance,…
Google is making money with users' emails contents and ads displayed in their interface, so that's not like they are doing that for free. In the case of airtable, I'm not sure non paying users are bringing them anything that can be monetized (I may just not be aware of vicious monetization ways though)
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#155I just literally searched for Web GUI client for Postgres and I was going through the Google Search results. Just in time noticed this awesome tool came up in HN. Really great man. I would like to become a paid customer once it's live.
Did you come across BaseDash? It was announced on HN a few months ago.
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not quite right. It's not the support. It's the churn metrics. A guy who uses your system episodically can give the appearance of a high churn rate. This is very bad and if you're raising money can imply that your system isn't sticky which lowers your valuations. If you're in the fundraising game that's actually worse than a few extra dollars of revenue.
Goodhart's law - When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.
We need another law here... When everybody maintains bad measures despite knowing they don't work. Impact factors in science are another example of that. You can say it is broken and proove it, your jury for grants or positions will still ask you to put the numbers next to your papers, and if you don't they'll do it themselves...
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#157Hello everyone, I am Bram Wiepjes, the founder of Baserow. Baserow is an open source, soon to be open core, no-code database tool and Airtable alternative. Easily create your own relational database in a user friendly way without technical experience. - Unlimited rows. - Released under the MIT license. - Uses popular frameworks like Django and Vue.js. - Uses PostgreSQL as database backend. - It can be self hosted. -…
I made a sample database and found it hard to look up the API - you could make that discoverable/easier from the main UI.
i was surprised to find the field ID's are named like "field_48664" - are you globally autoincrementing your fields?? this is going to be bad news, no?
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't this the PaaS model?
Sort of but not really. On thinking about it some more for the average user, you'd really want to sell a ready-to-go unit so they don't even have to deal with the initial computer setup and platform download/install because I know that's still way more than a lot of people would want to do or feel comfortable doing. They want something that they own, with good privacy, that just works, and is maintenance free. I imag…
Sounds a bit like what synology is offering. The only problem is maintenance of that. You now have millions of boxes that will fail randomly for various reasons (bug, bit flipping, hardware error). And now you have a furious user that can't restore from a broken backup and doesnt know how to repair (if even possible)...
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#159Hello everyone, I am Bram Wiepjes, the founder of Baserow. Baserow is an open source, soon to be open core, no-code database tool and Airtable alternative. Easily create your own relational database in a user friendly way without technical experience. - Unlimited rows. - Released under the MIT license. - Uses popular frameworks like Django and Vue.js. - Uses PostgreSQL as database backend. - It can be self hosted. -…
I noticed this in your job listing:
> Challenge: Potential candidates will be asked to do a coding challange by picking up a small issue from the open source backlog
The candidates who are fixing the issues, get paid? If so, I think this should be clarified.
Also, there is a typo in the word `challange` should be `challenge`
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#160After trying it out, this is unabashedly a clone of Airtable, but I couldn't find any apps/add-ons (yet?). To me, the apps, automations, and ability to create custom apps are what make Airtable so powerful. I did see mention of support for third-party plugins on the info site, but not when I tested it out; too early I guess.
A nice API might be all that you need. That and maybe something like https://lowdefy.com to easily put a UI in front of it.