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Re: DJI FPV

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Post by sneak »

jessaustin wrote: post #136
sneak wrote: post #128

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The product is amazing, but I'm sad that the first amazing integrated fpv product out is coming from DJI. It makes perfect sense, but I hate giving them money as each DJI purchase is a positive reinforcement for their abhorrent approach to consumer privacy. I'll probably get one, but continue to complain loudly online that every DJI product, including the offline ones, requires an account and email address and regist…

Is there a drawback to lying on this registration? One-time email, fake PID, etc.? Assume one doesn't live in PRC...

I use the one-time email, on a VPN, but there’s no way around it transmitting your serial number. To keep it private in the future you need a dedicated offline mobile device to run the app, which after installing the app never goes back online.

I don't want to have an offline DJI-only phone.

Most people who fly drones are sending their IP, gps data, and serial number to DJI on every flight.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by jiofih »

moooo99 wrote: post #49
jiofih wrote: post #43

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Have you tested one? Video reviews are reporting at least 10-15m flight times in cold weather.

As I said, 10-15 minutes seems completely realistic when talking about the sensor stabilized and comparatively slow flight modes. Most FPV channels that were reporting on the DJI FPV drone and actually tested the completely manual flight mode (which is the only one that really compares to the FPV flying you see in many videos) got around 3-5 minutes out of the battery. And again, it makes sense when looking at freest…

Sure you’ve been watching the actual reviews? All the ones I could find show 15-20m for sport mode, 10-12m for manual mode averaging >140km/h. It’s one of the key selling points over kits really.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by jessaustin »

sneak wrote: post #151
jessaustin wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a drawback to lying on this registration? One-time email, fake PID, etc.? Assume one doesn't live in PRC...

I use the one-time email, on a VPN, but there’s no way around it transmitting your serial number. To keep it private in the future you need a dedicated offline mobile device to run the app, which after installing the app never goes back online. I don't want to have an offline DJI-only phone. Most people who fly drones are sending their IP, gps data, and serial number to DJI on every flight.

Yikes! I had forgotten all of that... maybe an old phone without a SIM might be a good idea.

Re: DJI FPV

#154

Post by snovv_crash »

matsemann wrote: post #13

The motion controller reminds me of a project I made many years ago, where head tilting of an oculus rift would control the cameras on your drone: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7654141 Also cool that they have been embracing virtual practicing it seems. The original DJI controllers were impossible to pair with simulators, so I had to hack it: https://github.com/Matsemann/mDjiController/ I sold (or basically ga…

The motion controller tech was acquired from a Swiss startup[1]. Even DJI doesn't do everything in-house...

1: https://motionpilot.ch/

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by 05 »

dylan604 wrote: post #145
mynameisvlad wrote: post #140

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Why is gatekeeping FPV drones so important to you? Opening it up to new potential users some of which will want to eventually invest in better setups seems very much like a good thing.

I don't consider it gatekeeping. I consider it responsibility. Low barrier to entry is not always such a good thing. The idiots that would not get into it because of some sort of required training but would get into it without hesitation without training are typically ones that cause the problems for everyone else. There are lots of things in life/society that requires some sort of responsibility. I feel that somethi…

Rotor Riot's infamous bridge dive [1]

Mr Steele's failsafe when diving a building [2], Reddit discussion [3]

Nurk's train video (for which he was fined by the FAA) [4]

But surely, those trained professionals that learned how to solder wires to the ESCs can't be dicks.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJgRuMXBHHI

[2] https://gfycat.com/freshthisinsect-multicopter

[3] https://old.reddit.com/r/Multicopter/comments/5hajmh/lets_al...

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQDcDZ6rmGE

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by alkz »

sangnoir wrote: post #94
ionwake wrote: post #64

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I dont know why this comment was downvoted I found it both funny and informative

It's obviously hyperbole - but the problem is that without the hyperbole, the comment communicates nothing substantive. How was it informative?

it informs you that you're going to crash it when you try to actually fly it, and it will break badly. fpv drone frames are usually made from thick carbon fiber, with replaceable arms, and are designed for durability and repairability and they still get wrecked in crashes. so even if i put it in a funny way, it's not as much an hyperbole as much as a fact: unless you're pretty much hovering, you're going to end up with a very expensive and unserviceable pile of broken electronics and plastic

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by renewiltord »

Amusing. Any time someone says some cool thing from a big company is "limiting for the experienced" I know it's probably a great product for me, the amateur.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by gdubs »

I haven’t used this specifically, but I’ve been really impressed with the DJI brand overall. I got a Mavic Air 2 and a gimbal for photography from them this year, and have been very happy with the quality of both. (The gimbal, being more of a professional tool, was a bit annoying to setup.)

They have bitten a lot of Apple’s packaging, presentation, and UX — which isn’t really a bad thing. (Imitation and flattery, and if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, etc.)

I’m intrigued by FPV, but I have no burning need for it right now — I’m mainly interested in cinematography and building maps of my property for farming, gardening, and architecture.

One thing I would say: having a big property to learn on has been handy. It does concern me how flippant some are in this thread about barriers to entry and the risks. Until you get yourself into a hairy situation, you may not fully appreciate the risks.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by Naomarik »

hactually wrote: post #25
Naomarik wrote: post #11

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DJI digital video has been out for quite awhile now for hobbyists to include in their custom builds. Transmission range is not a valid point because a clean analog video signal and Crossfire outpaces DJI enormously. The 20 min flight time is a lie, Joshua Bardwell measured 10 minutes hovering. That's extremely easy to surpass on typical light weight 5 inch freestyle drone with a 1300mah battery that cost a fifth of t…

You seem in the know, any recommended sources or communities I should look into, or even if you're happy to share more I'm keen to hear it

Facebook is the #1 community resource for drones unfortunately. If you want to get started check out Joshua Bardwell on Youtube.

Re: DJI FPV

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Post by Naomarik »

dylan604 wrote: post #145
mynameisvlad wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is gatekeeping FPV drones so important to you? Opening it up to new potential users some of which will want to eventually invest in better setups seems very much like a good thing.

I don't consider it gatekeeping. I consider it responsibility. Low barrier to entry is not always such a good thing. The idiots that would not get into it because of some sort of required training but would get into it without hesitation without training are typically ones that cause the problems for everyone else. There are lots of things in life/society that requires some sort of responsibility. I feel that somethi…

Yup. I've been flying long enough to know that even though my radio and video link can easily take me several kilometers out, it can fail at any moment and I have to treat it as such.

RTF packages have always existed, but DJI making this widespread will allow every random person to buy one from their local store and have the ability to fly acro, which is pretty horrifying.

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