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What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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The rest of the Wirecutter article where it backtracks?

Where do they backtrack? The article is pretty clear about there being no editorial influence.

Did you read about the order of events?

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I own this model, and use it to humidify a small room. I sympathize with the author's complaints with respect to the difficulty of cleaning it, though mine just doesn't need cleaning very often. And the wick DOES get moldy if you let it sit in wet water for weeks on end.

But her other complaints puzzle me:

I don't find it to be messy to refill. What is she doing wrong?

It's even more baffling that she thinks it "doesn't work". I mean, she refills the tank every night, so we know the water is disappearing from the tank... where does she think the water is going? Isn't that proof enough that it does, in fact work?

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There are ultrasonic humidifiers, at the same price point, that have humidity meters built in so they don't over humidify. It's completely dishonest for wirecutter to claim that the entire category over-humidifies. It's just not true.

Ultrasonic just sprays all the disolved minerals across your room. You won't notice it at first, but about 2 or 3 weeks into using the device, you'll find plenty of "white dust" all over your room. In my experience, you get a smelly bacteria-infested humidifier if you keep using it for a few days. You need to regularly rinse ultrasonic humidifiers... or really any humidifier at all.

So, I have one of these running in my room right now (and have for the whole winter thus far). No white dust. That said, I don't run it at full power, I keep it where I can barely see any mist coming out.

It humidifies the room quite nicely, keeping it at about 40% humidity (our house averages 25% without humidifiers running, which is hell on skin and noses).

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Last winter I installed a whole house humidifier and I couldn’t be happier. Very little maintenance, marked reduction in dry nose and cracked skin. Easily handles the whole house. As a DIY project I would rate it’s difficulty as moderate.

Does this increase the risk of mold growing in external walls and around windows during winter?

I live in an exceptionally dry area - I'm taking the humidity from too-low-to-register-on-the-hygrometer to 30%RH - so there's no material mold risk either around the windows or in the HVAC ducting.

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This is so funny to see on Hacker News and ironic because I'm sitting at my computer literally right next to 2 of these units that I'm planning on selling. Bought one for our room and one for our child's room. We have humidity sensors in both rooms and I've studied the delta after hours of use. It does not move the needle of humidity in the room. On top of that, it created a horrible moldy/musky smell.

My father built a new house and has humidifier built into the HVAC (I guess newer systems have this). One day, I'll have that. One day...

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People say "pretty cheap", but a lot of reverse-osmosis filters I've seen are ~$150 to $450. Also consider: it takes ~4 gallons of water to make 1-gallon of reverse-osmosis water. All water-purification methods have their own issues. ------- If you plan to make distilled water (aka: boil water to remove impurities)... that's basically what a warm-mist boiling-type humidifier does _anyway_. All good water-purification…

I have an under-sink RO/DI system, the whole system was about $200. It's a great investment for a place with hard water. I use it to get demineralized water for my house plants, fish tank, and drinking. I use the RODI for expensive steam appliances like my Wagner, but I don't use RODI for regular old vegetable steamers or humidifiers. It's just not worth it. The scale buildup isn't a big deal and it's very easy to di…

For people with Ultrasonic humidifiers (which spray the scale across the room as white-dust), it is a much bigger pain to clean that up with regular dusting.

For warm-air humidifiers (aka: boiling water), where all the scale is concentrated onto the heating element: yeah... no big deal. A cup of cheap 5% vinegar and 20-minutes of waiting is all you need to clean that off.

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I think if you have RO water, it probably makes sense to use an ultrasonic humidifier.

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I own this model, and use it to humidify a small room. I sympathize with the author's complaints with respect to the difficulty of cleaning it, though mine just doesn't need cleaning very often. And the wick DOES get moldy if you let it sit in wet water for weeks on end. But her other complaints puzzle me: I don't find it to be messy to refill. What is she doing wrong? It's even more baffling that she thinks it "does…

A teaspoon- of bleach or so for 3 gallons of water will solve your mold issue quite handily, even while sitting. It's not enough to smell even when the humidifier is running at full blast. Just enough to kill bacteria and mold.

I'm repeating this advice a lot in this thread, it surprises me it's not better known.

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I did an exhaustive search and tried them all. The answer is Vornado Evap40. Can easily dump 2 gallons in half a day. Nothing even comes close. Key is moderate negative air pressure. Operating cost is higher than most but well worth it.

If you are sensitive to noise, try the Vornado EVDC lineup. It is smart enough to run the fan at the lowest speed required to maintain the set humidity.

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I own this model, and use it to humidify a small room. I sympathize with the author's complaints with respect to the difficulty of cleaning it, though mine just doesn't need cleaning very often. And the wick DOES get moldy if you let it sit in wet water for weeks on end. But her other complaints puzzle me: I don't find it to be messy to refill. What is she doing wrong? It's even more baffling that she thinks it "does…

I just bought a (different) honeywell humidifier. so far it works, but not as well as I expected. I hoped it would be able to maintain a somewhat stable humidity for the sake of my guitars, but it can't really keep up with the desiccating power of my central heat. I wonder if part of the issue here is mismatched expectations with evaporative humidifiers?

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Friendly reminder: If this is not the internet you want, please try to support indie content producers whose work you think is decent and who take tips/Patreon/et al. And if you can afford it, subscribe to online newspapers and the like (because journalism is in a world of hurt and it is negatively impacting minor little things like freedom and democracy). I blog and I take tips and Patreon and I sometimes hit the fr…

> The world can decide it values good writing and that writers deserve a decent income It has decided. The sad truth is just that “good writing” just isn’t that valuable (as can be seen in how much people pay) if you don’t have some killer content to back it up. Good writing is requisite but not sufficient. Just because something is a sustaining profession for a few people doesn’t mean it should be for everyone who d…

Nobody is forcing you to write.

I write because it's something I can do. I'm seriously handicapped and there are a lot of things I simply cannot do.

That's a lousy argument. I use myself as an example for various reasons, but the reality is this a widespread problem and the state of journalism is a real problem, as I noted above.

I'm well aware of why people don't like hearing they basically want slave labor. I've listened for years to the reasons people on HN do not like ads, do not like content marketing, etc. I removed ads from my sites and I don't typically use affiliate links.

I use myself as an example in hopes of elucidating the problem space and making it clear that I've studied this for years and I'm not blowing smoke. It's not just me. Writing generally has terrible pay even when it's good quality, etc.

Find some way to help writers pay their bills. The fact that writers exist and that's what they know and there aren't other middle class jobs with good benefits they can readily apply for is an actual issue which negatively impacts the world.

Gig work is up. Benefits are down. Lots of people are underpaid, underemployed, etc. It isn't just writers.

As for medicine, our medical system is probably even more messed up than what we do to writers. We actively incentivize a system of keeping you drugged up and limping along and yadda.

But I'm sure people are even less interested in hearing that than in hearing "If you don't want the shitty internet we've chosen to create, then make other choices that support some other outcome."

I don't intend to spend a whole lot of time arguing it. I've been here a lot of years. I know people don't like hearing this, quickly turn to dismissive personal attacks and ugly justifications. This is hardly some original rebuttal to my points.

I chose to say it anyway because I know most folks here are business people or IT people and haven't thought it through as much as I have. Each individual case of criticism of how people here don't want to support writers seems logical and not a problem in isolation. Most folks here are not on the receiving end going "Wait a minute. This is part of why I remain poor. There's no good means to get paid for what I do, though there is certainly demand for good writing."

This is me telling folks I write, the world makes it really hard for writers to make ends meet, that's part of why you get certain kinds of garbage on the internet.

People can do with that info what they choose, including nothing at all. I've occasionally said such things for years and it seems to make no difference.

But I will likely continue to say something from time to time anyway, even though people think it's appropriate to attack me instead of taking my points seriously. And that's why I say it boils down to an expectation of slave labor because, yeah, people basically get mad at being told "this is why this goes on" rather than going "oh, I had not thought to connect those dots. I shall have to keep that in mind going forward."

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