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Re: Fantasy UI

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> and often rampant unhelpful skeuomorphism. That's the best part of it. They work like hardware, which if you get serious, you often end up buying and using as well, which means studio musicians immediately know what they do, computer musicians get to learn how hardware units works, and the designs are nice and life-like. The bad about skeuomorphism is not looking like a hardware unit, but being restricted to intera…

It would be kinda cool if the basic slideable/toggleable options of a plugin could be defined somehow so that the program/OS of your choice can render them as a nice boring inspector palette or something. Then you can choose between that and the vendor-defined skeuomorphic design. Perhaps it already exists?

>Perhaps it already exists?

Yeah, it does. Not sure if it's available on all DAWs, but the capability to enumerate and control the various options corresponding to various widgets exists in the protocols.

Logic and Ableton Live do offer this view as alternative.

Re: Fantasy UI

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They are fantasy UIs, you’ve just forgotten that fantasy is a real word with a specific meaning and not just a genre of fiction.

Like I said, almost all art is fantasy then, and almost all science fiction isn’t scientific enough to qualify. And all stories have drama too, so we might as well clump almost everything into a “dramatic fantasy” bucket in that case. The genre names aren’t perfect but repurposing them to be more English-accurate isn’t helping people find what they’re looking for

Yes but we aren’t talking about a genre, that’s the point you’re missing.

Re: Fantasy UI

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I hate to be a downer, but these fantasy UIs are also completely unusable. They have no actual users, so they can go all-in on flashy complexity without having to solve the problem of "how do I let an expert get work done most efficiently." I have never seen a fantasy UI with spreadsheets, but the fact of the matter is that Excel is much closer to a power-user interface than anything you see in movies.

Not a downer at all; that's the real truth. The visual eye candy is needed because Excel just doesn't excite anybody but power users, and even then only if the spreadsheet model pertains to their expert domain. I have exactly the same feeling when I see terminal output flashing up on the big screens.

I beg to differ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xubbVvKbUfY

Re: Fantasy UI

#154

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It would be kinda cool if the basic slideable/toggleable options of a plugin could be defined somehow so that the program/OS of your choice can render them as a nice boring inspector palette or something. Then you can choose between that and the vendor-defined skeuomorphic design. Perhaps it already exists?

> Perhaps it already exists? Yeah, it does. Not sure if it's available on all DAWs, but the capability to enumerate and control the various options corresponding to various widgets exists in the protocols. Logic and Ableton Live do offer this view as alternative.

That's great. I'm never a fan of the skeuomorphic controls. Making a dial right and down by dragging my cursor up makes no sense to me, much prefer a slider.
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