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Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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post #106

Let's use IPv6 more and it'll worth far less than $2B.

The problem with IPv6 is that it's a fundamentally flawed design. Which looks easier to input / dictate over the phone / write down somewhere? 220.12.30.01 or 2001:cdba:0000:0000:0000:0000:3257:9652?

To be fair, your example would (according to the official spec) be shortened to 2001:cdba::3257:9652, which would not be hard to communicate over the phone.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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post #106

Let's use IPv6 more and it'll worth far less than $2B.

The problem with IPv6 is that it's a fundamentally flawed design. Which looks easier to input / dictate over the phone / write down somewhere? 220.12.30.01 or 2001:cdba:0000:0000:0000:0000:3257:9652?

+44 115 1234 123 is also more difficult to explain than "0115 1234 123" or even "1234 123", but it enables the whole world to telephone that number.

What alternative do you propose, that gives us more addresses but isn't longer? (IPv4 has fewer addresses than people)

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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post #144
post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very often your residential connection is sold as proxy to e.g. circumvent rate limits. Companies like luminati are used for example for scraping google search results and many more things.

My startup offers a residential IP sharing model where users get paid to share their bandwidth: https://packetstream.io

This is the one of the best (if not the best) solution out there I tried so far, congratulations. I am very happy to see it is from fellow HNer.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of entities does your broker rent them out to? Are you worried at all about tenants trashing your IPs' reputation and future market value?

This is a good question, I don't get why you are downvoted. I also own some /22 and I've been so far reluctant to rent them for the reasons you mentioned.

What are you currently using them for? Are they just sitting dormant ?

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

#159

At this point, it’s the same as RF spectrum. Yet clearly there is no regulatory body to manage it.

There are five regulatory bodies managing it. Six, if you count IANA.

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/allocation-ipv4-rirs-2...

https://afrinic.net/policy/manual

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/

https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/

https://www.lacnic.net/1033/2/lacnic/policies

https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-policies

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

#160
post #68

How are we not out of IPv4 addresses already? Aren't there a billion phones out there? And probably the same number of PCs and god knows how many servers?

When i read the title, I first thought to myself that those 2 billion dollars will be pretty much worthless once everyone uses ipv6. But as soon as more ipv6 adresses are used (or CG-NAT), ipv4 adresses will become cheaper, so there seems to be a natural balance which will keep the state of "There are IPv4 adresses left" and "IPv4 adresses will run out sometime soon"

For a while, but eventually we will hit a tipping point where nobody cares about IPv4 anymore.
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