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Re: Google Stories

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Post by sellyme »

thekyle wrote: post #111
tmk1108 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very far away from that bubble and I have yet to meet anyone who uses Bing either. And I know several people who still use Hotmail/Yahoo.

Seems like Yahoo just uses the Bing API these days. > Yahoo! Search is a rebadged version of the Bing search engine owned by Yahoo!, headquartered in Sunnyvale, California. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search

Given that they put it in the same category as Hotmail, I assume that they mean Yahoo Mail, not the search engine.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by perryizgr8 »

sktrdie wrote: post #52
stingraycharles wrote: post #24

Am I the only one who, after reading the landing page, still has no idea what this is? I’ve been watching “immersive” websites for quite some time, mostly marketing-ish websites but also sometimes some special purpose pages from National Geografic or NYT. What exactly is this? A JavaScript/CSS framework? Something like AMP? Or is it a social network like Snapchat? I’m genuinely confused what I’m looking at and feel o…

It’s pretty cool. If you make a url return data that is visually aligned with “a story protocol” google will put it at top of relevant search results. Think of it as a mini-html site that follows a specific set of visual JS and CSS protocols so that consumers have guarantee of its behavior (will not have crazy ads, gifs or third party content) and behaves consistently. Kind of interesting avenue for publishing conten…

> All websites behave differently.

That's the point, isn't it?

Re: Google Stories

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Post by mdgrech23 »

scrollaway wrote: post #9

Wow, I guess this is what FOMO looks like when taken to the b2c megacorp level. It feels like a safe bet that this is Google+ all over again, and it'll fail just as badly. But hey, set a 5 year reminder and I'll happily take the "I was wrong" on this if I indeed am.

google plus meets amp fo sho

Re: Google Stories

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Post by ehsankia »

dessant wrote: post #138
stingraycharles wrote: post #24

Am I the only one who, after reading the landing page, still has no idea what this is? I’ve been watching “immersive” websites for quite some time, mostly marketing-ish websites but also sometimes some special purpose pages from National Geografic or NYT. What exactly is this? A JavaScript/CSS framework? Something like AMP? Or is it a social network like Snapchat? I’m genuinely confused what I’m looking at and feel o…

> Something like AMP? This is literally AMP [1]. The feature was launched as AMP Stories, which has now been rebranded to Web Stories. They are throwing everything at the wall to increase the use of AMP. [1] https://amp.dev/about/stories/

This seems to be more focused on the distribution. The screenshot makes it seem like it'll be shown on Chrome's new tab page. So in some sense it is closer to Snapchat stories. It's basically stories in Chrome?

Re: Google Stories

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Post by erklik »

reidjs wrote: post #76
thekyle wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft Bing competes with Google Search.

I have yet to meet someone that uses bing, but maybe that’s just because I’m in the Silicon Valley bubble

Interestingly. There's bound to be more people using Bing in the Silicon Valley bubble than outside it. This is because duckduckgo, the famed privacy focused search engine uses Bing as the back end.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by cambalache »

torben-friis wrote: post #140
cambalache wrote: post #90

When I see things like this I laugh and laugh and laugh about the naive view usually presented in HN that the "best minds of our generation" are all in FAANGs. Move over Peter Scholze, Terry Tao and Magnus Carlsen, the Google(TM) kids who just copied TikTok/Instagram have just arrived.

Well, that's the complain isn't it? That the technical skills are being wasted on glorified marketing companies. If you hire Frank Lloyd Wright to design your bathroom, you can't use the fact that you end up looking at a toilet as proof that he's not great.

Well, they did come up with that "innovation", didnt they?

Re: Google Stories

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Post by freetime2 »

As a user, what I really want is just high-quality information. No click-bait headlines, auto-play movies, or hijacking standard browser scrolling. Images are fine if they actually help to convey useful information, but beyond that less is more. I'd also prefer to see less opinion-based content out of Google News and more factual reporting... and a lot of times I feel like these "story" type articles tend to cherry-pick the facts to fit into whatever narrative they are trying to tell.

I understand that other people might have different preferences, and I'm sure Google has a bunch of data that proves this stuff improves click-through rates and engagement. But I have been checking Google News several times a day out of habit for years now, and I think it's time to break that habit. Much better I think to just frequent a small number of high-quality sources than to try to drink from the firehose of crap on Google News.

Re: Google Stories

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Post by sellyme »

blt wrote: post #132
eplanit wrote: post #65

Another example of how Google just doesn't make exciting technology anymore.

They still make exciting technology. Google's search is still far better than the competition . The Pixel computational photography app is cutting edge. Their translation and speech synthesis are great. They are still good at "organizing the world's information". They fail when they try to mimic their competitors. Their cloud services trail Amazon. Their hardware trails Apple. Their social media trails... everybody.…

> Their social media trails... everybody.

While it still existed, Google+ was far better than any other popular social media site around. I'm sure I don't need to offer any critique of Facebook, and Twitter's UX was an absolute disaster before they implemented usable threading.

Sure, our grandmothers weren't going to start using it, but I've seen what they're posting on Facebook and as far as I'm concerned that was an extreme positive.

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