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Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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Honestly, the arguments in this series of posts are not strong. I laughed out loud when I got to his complaints about Apple's headphone chips and the ease of pairing they allow -- and how it's somehow unfair that Apple, having developed this competitive advantage, is refusing to share it with other companies.

What IS it about Apple that makes a certain class of tech geek feel like they have to dislike them in such a public and performative way?

Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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This is a false dichotomy that both pro-government and pro-corporate people fall into. Whether Apple or "Our Government", we shouldn't be giving this much power to institutions. > But even so, what are we supposed to do? Vote with your wallet. Stop consuming whatever it is that comes with attached strings. Stop putting convenience above principles. Refuse to pay/subscribe/accept any terms that are clearly not in your…

> You don't need Big Government to do that. Regulations are there tools that citizens have to reign in corporate behavior. 'Big government' is just a catch name for many anti regulation lobbying entities to remove power from citizens and acumulats it on corporations. > Vote with your wallet. Yes. And also vote with your ballots, one person one vote triumphs one dollar one vote if you want freedom.

> 'Big government' is just a catch name for many anti regulation lobbying entities to remove power from citizens and acumulats it on corporations.

This is completely reductionist, and completely uninformed.

Banks, as an easy counter example to your worldview, don't have armies of third party regulators, corporate compliance staff, and auditors because they hate regulation. They love big government. It acts as a barrier to entry for them, because they already have the 10,000 person department ready to modify procedures and legal documents to comply with the next set of regulations while the little banks drown. Regulators frequently dine with top bank executives, but I can assure you they aren't dining with the citizenry or your local regional bank.

Every amount of extra regulation just increases tyranny. It makes the American dream more untenable. I want people to succeed and not rely on giant mega corporations for their well being and wealth generation. You can rightly claim that I'm an anti-regulation lobbying entity in this regard, if you wish.

Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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You don't have to: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5

So a huge step backwards (it doesn't even have NFC) for principles I guess.

You cannot achieve perfection from the first step...

Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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Depends if you are willing to have some support from Verbraucherschutzzentrale or not. I can tell you that my almost impossible to resign contract from Vodafone got quickly sorted out with their help.

Most people aren't aware of these extra entities that can help protect their interests. So to them the system has failed and I can see their point. Navigating your rights as a citizen and/or consumer shouldn't be a thing. It should be an automatic action.

That I fully agree, most aren't even aware of their work rights, having had a quite good works council on my first employer really opened my eyes to care about the German legal system.

Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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> I want ALL my subscriptions to go through Apple Pay and App store. You do so only because you believe have no choice as you know that your democracy is so crippled that you don't expect them to protect your rights as a consumer any more! Where as many Europeans and Asians, who also enjoy democratic rights, will tell you openly that we would prefer that our democratically elected government protect our consumer righ…

First of all, as a European, I'm not sure what you are talking about. Try cancelling your mobile contract in Germany early. Secondly, I might want to buy/subscribe to things that come from companies outside of EU.

Haven't you heard though, the current correct opinion is "america bad, europe good"

Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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I just paid for 12 months worth of Skype subscription which I have used for just 2 calls back in January. I want ALL my subscriptions to go through Apple Pay and App store. Once I subscribed to New York times. The newspaper that was advertised to me for years in all Hollywood movies as a place where honesty and freedom are of highest priority. I had to spend an hour on a phone with their representatives to cancel it…

Not sure how long ago you cancelled your NYT sub, but it took me 5 minutes yesterday.

Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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If by conservative you mean antisemitism, white supremacy, far out conspiracy, racism and hate speech: then yes they banned 'conservative' platforms. That's trying to make a cultural war of broadly accepted, democratic values. It got nothing to do with progressive politics. If you want to go full libertarian and demand Apple to give freedom to all these medieval hate platforms, you'll have to allow IS and the Al Qaid…

Apple doesn't care about racism. Why else would they allow a song called "Fuck White People" on iTunes? https://music.apple.com/us/search?term=fuck%20white%20people

Did you listen to the song? I mean, I’m a white guy and it’s hard to read the lyrics and not say they’re coming from a place of legitimate grievance:

https://genius.com/Ajj-fuck-white-people-lyrics

This hits the key point: there’s no history of oppression adding weight to that. Someone can not like white people but that’s not linked to a history of violence, financial discrimination, etc. which is living memory for a LOT of non-white people. There’s a big difference between not liking/trusting and echoing real threats of organized violence.

Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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Honestly, the arguments in this series of posts are not strong. I laughed out loud when I got to his complaints about Apple's headphone chips and the ease of pairing they allow -- and how it's somehow unfair that Apple, having developed this competitive advantage, is refusing to share it with other companies. What IS it about Apple that makes a certain class of tech geek feel like they have to dislike them in such a…

They're not the underdog anymore, they're very profitable, they make lukewarm claims for headlines that fall apart under scrutiny (the kind of scrutiny that tech geeks are all about), and in recent history have acted pretty badly towards developers.

All that said, after building a Linux machine for development and general client work, I consider Macs the best option out there. Everything from being able to copy 2FA codes from my phone and pasting on my computer, to colored tags and smart folders in Finder make my work easier. Also, Bluetooth is just a breeze under macOS.

Re: Falling Out of Love with Apple, Part 3: Content and Censorship

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The whole cultue of Apple is so weird, and kind of appalling. Just the fact that their press conferences are broadcast, and they're held in front of an audience that applaud everything the presenter says, and laughs at his jokes. People "live blog" it, like some bizarre court stenographer. And 1.000 threads are posted on HN about Apple keybords having been made even worse. Again. It's not healthy.

I remember seeing a video of a Musk presentation. It was like that too, but Musk was so awkward and charmless, it was so cringe-enducing.

Steve Balmer wins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I14b-C67EXY&t=10s

If you can do a shuffling run, punctuated by awkward hops around a stage while screaming, "Eeeeeeeeeeeeee!" to applause from a huge crowd at a corporate event, then you've got some devoted fanatics.

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