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Guessing something like NextCloud/Gitea.

That is... an oddly random guess.

I'm not sure. It seems like a fairly normal combination of things for people who self-host. My stack is pretty much the same, except I use gogs instead of gitea, and I'd add `Lychee` for photo sharing.

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I have to mention that this is one of the top 3 tools in my personal stack. See some comments below regarding various things I saw in this thread. Stability: Been running it for 2+ years now (or is it 3+ already?), no problems whatsoever. I update when the mood strikes - never had to roll back because something wasn't working. Why: As someone who considers himself terrible at remembering things, this little piece of…

I also started using this tool a couple of years back, when it was posted on product hunt, and I found it pretty useful. I can say it had saved me time and frustration whenever I forgot a name or a detail about an acquaintance.

I had completely forgotten about this, in fact I had been using the notes field on the contacts app, but thanks to this post I’m going back to it again.

What are the other top two of your personal stack?

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> There's a (repeating) notion in this thread that keeping up with people is somehow linked to how much you care about them. I care deeply about many people I meet, personally, but I don't think the two are necessarily correlated. I wholeheartedly agree. There’s a similar resistance towards books like “How to win friends...”, like you’re a sleazy car salesman for trying to improve your social skills. It’s like harpin…

I have a friend who does this. It used to be that every year or so he would come out to where I live for a convention he liked to go to and he would stay at my house for 3-4 days and we'd catch up, go do some stuff in the evening when he wasn't at the convention, etc. One year he resolved to "do better about keeping up" - apparently feeling bad that our entire message history was him texting me a month before the con…

> Frankly, I don't need to know how he is doing every few months and I find it a bit awkward to make small talk any way.

There's a bit of secret sauce here that I tend to rely on to prevent myself from being considered "that guy".

First and foremost, I do this as much as possible via e-mail. Phone or WhatsApp is indeed too "personal" for these type of things (save for one person, an old boss of mine, who I have a scheduled zoom call with once a month. But that's just because he and I just like the chit-chat, it appears).

I write up a long-form message, something like 5-8 paragraphs with real news about myself and the things I've been up to, and ship that alongside the usual casual chit-chat.

It's surprisingly useful - I think this is the only context in which long-form e-mail is a good thing.

But then again, I grew up in an era where e-mail is the devil, and this was not always the case (or so they tell me).

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I’ve recently struggled with this problem recently and looked at all the personal CRM tools. Monica, Dex, UpHabit, Cloze, CJournal etc. I learned that tools are just tools, they’re not magic. The way to keep in touch with people is to consistently keep in touch and write down their information. It doesn’t matter the tool. I now just allocate a few hours each weekend to update and review a custom excel sheet I use as my CRM. You might think it’s inefficient, but the inefficiency is where I actually accomplish the most. Progress often looks inefficient in hindsight. Plus - simple doesn’t mean easy and complexity itself doesn’t equal better.

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There is no reason why you could not run any of the (self hosted) solutions you've mentioned in fifty years. Your data is still yours and it's easy enough to transform the database with simple tools in any format you like, if you choose to do so. For me the build in capabilities of these tools can not be beaten by text files. Especially when it comes to searching/filtering and linking your data. In the end the databa…

Very idealistic. - Have you ever tried to maintain a PHP project or Django project or any other web project after several years? Dependencies break, packages are abandoned, or the whole project gets abandoned, then try to maintain the regular updates, patches, fixes. Whole lot of work, until you give up, have yet another database dump in your hand and no interface to work with the data. Of course you can query those…

If it's a private project, like a Personal CRM, you don't have to maintain anything, just run it in a VM or container make access only possible over a SSH tunnel and forget about it.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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Not sure if this was already argued elsewhere as I understand that monica gets posted here frequently, but on the readme: > This project is for people who have hard time remembering details about other people's lives - especially the ones they care about. My argument is, if you actually cared for someone, wouldn't you take the effort to remember everything about them, rather than saving it in a social relationship da…

This is peak Silicon Valley.

A Personal Relationship Manager feels like something that would be used against you in a jury trial. Not any specific information entered into it, just the fact alone that you were using it.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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I totally get this thinking, but I am oriented totally differently from you. I will forget my friend's birthdays, their kids names, their wife's names, things they've talked about recently, etc, etc. I have a terrible memory for this stuff. I'm not sure if it's just me being stubborn, but all of these things just feel very slippery to my mind. On the other end, I will remember in vibrant detail very trivial facts tha…

You won't forget the names when it matters. If you can't remember these basic details, it's a sign that person is not close enough to you for it to actually matter. Or, maybe you're like me and you just met the person five minutes ago. Either case is forgivable.

I have a brain injury. I can’t remember my parent’s birthdays. I recently couldn’t recall my wife’s middle name. I love all those people and live with one of them. Needing or wanting a technology assist doesn’t map to one’s level of commitment to a relationship in my opinion.

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Very idealistic. - Have you ever tried to maintain a PHP project or Django project or any other web project after several years? Dependencies break, packages are abandoned, or the whole project gets abandoned, then try to maintain the regular updates, patches, fixes. Whole lot of work, until you give up, have yet another database dump in your hand and no interface to work with the data. Of course you can query those…

If it's a private project, like a Personal CRM, you don't have to maintain anything, just run it in a VM or container make access only possible over a SSH tunnel and forget about it.

I‘ve seen VMs running Ubuntu 10.something, with a Jira instance that was never updated. Then these people had both an outdated VM where upgrading to the next Ubuntu Sever LTD version was not a trivial task. And Jira was outdated as well. And I‘m not even talking about the Mysql and other services on that VM.

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Not sure if this was already argued elsewhere as I understand that monica gets posted here frequently, but on the readme: > This project is for people who have hard time remembering details about other people's lives - especially the ones they care about. My argument is, if you actually cared for someone, wouldn't you take the effort to remember everything about them, rather than saving it in a social relationship da…

This is peak Silicon Valley. A Personal Relationship Manager feels like something that would be used against you in a jury trial. Not any specific information entered into it, just the fact alone that you were using it.

Why? What is the difference between this and a filofax except for the fact that one is digital and one is not?

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Have you read the book? It’s very far from being sleazy or manipulative, but rather a guide to what people tend to think are agreeable qualities.

Fair enough, I have not and was going on hearsay, but from wikipedia "As time passed however, scholarly reviews became more critical, chiding Carnegie for being insincere and manipulative" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influen... ) And it also says "Charles Manson used what he learned from the book in prison to manipulate women into killing on his behalf" but I don't know if that can be blame…

I have not and was going on hearsay

This is unfortunate.

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