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Re: Hire people who give a shit

#152

This article is megalomaniacal. Insisting that your company with 200+ employees will only hire people who will work themselves to the bone without any mention of how those people will be properly compensated is wild corporate propaganda. I honestly don’t know why the tech industry continues to capitulate to leaders like this who obviously, and loudly, mistreat and dehumanize their employees by insisting that if you a…

Or perhaps you are weak-mind? It's funny, hard working individuals are typically the ones who don't have jobs, while people who perpetuate mediocrity, like you, most like have jobs. Mediocrity is what people hire for. Not skill.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

#153

This article is megalomaniacal. Insisting that your company with 200+ employees will only hire people who will work themselves to the bone without any mention of how those people will be properly compensated is wild corporate propaganda. I honestly don’t know why the tech industry continues to capitulate to leaders like this who obviously, and loudly, mistreat and dehumanize their employees by insisting that if you a…

I'm curious. How many misogynistic clients actually scream at 22 year old analysts in MBB? I'd assume business norms would ensure some form of civility in meetings. I haven't heard from any of my MBB friends (who are mostly in India btw), of being yelled at.

When I was in PE, I was the 25 year old shouting at some 45 year old CEO (with the license of my firm's MD) for BSing around. Fun times, but that was a very exceptional circumstance.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

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Yikes. I would never work for that person after reading that article. “I started a company and I’m totally wild about it. It is my life. If it is not your life too then you don’t belong here.” Founders are supposed to be obsessed with their company. (Though I question that too.) But demanding everyone else at the company be just as obsessed is doomed to hire children and sycophants and drive off professionals who hav…

He is 22 or something. It’s a common thing in founders in their early 20s, just out of college, to be overly obsessed about their work/companies. Eventually he might grow or has to grow out of it.

In the meantime, wouldn’t be surprising if he’s horrible to work with, which was OP point.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would strongly recommend the latter. The former is playing the lottery. Even if you win, stock appreciation in big tech over 10 years beats the startup stock. Not to mention, you won't be at a no name startup for years to find out whether you won the lottery.

This makes sense from a financial point of view, but that's not the only factor people care about. I'd state it more like: Go to an early stage startup only if you'll still be happy with the experience if the equity evaporates.

If one doesn't care about the financial PoV, there are good enough reasons to go to a mid stage startup as well (clearer purpose, structure, product market fit etc.) over an early stage one.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

#156

This article is megalomaniacal. Insisting that your company with 200+ employees will only hire people who will work themselves to the bone without any mention of how those people will be properly compensated is wild corporate propaganda. I honestly don’t know why the tech industry continues to capitulate to leaders like this who obviously, and loudly, mistreat and dehumanize their employees by insisting that if you a…

This is not confined to SV nor to tech. It's very common in the finance industry as well, but the worst is arguably in health care, where patients can literally die due to mistakes or lack of enough attention by overworked doctors and nurses running on an extreme lack of sleep.

This doesn't even begin to address the casualties from burnout, which can lead to depression, stress-related health issues, and suicide. How much compensation is worth that?

In the finance sector, which is almost literally swimming in money, I never understood why they didn't just hire more people and instead preferred to work the talented people they attract half to death.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

#157
I think a lot of employees end up not giving a shit because their employer don't give a shit in the first place. The culture is rotting up on both sides of the fence. Companies can't force people to give a shit because they surely know how to fake it if required to and companies can't change their principles because the sole principle, profit making cannot be changed. What sort of works is propaganda. There are always young people who are gullible to give their heart and souls for companies who don't really give a shit. Some companies give a shit at the beginning but after becoming profitable they end up not giving a shit

Re: Hire people who give a shit

#158
post #55

Oh my, what drivel. Another startup CEO who thinks late-stage employees with essentially zero upside in the company need to put in founder hours.

I got a kick out of the sample interview questions...if I were asked them, my answers make clear the worst part about this kind of culture: >>> What’s the hardest you’ve ever worked on something? Lead-up to the holiday season as an employee of an ecommerce startup. >>> How many hours were you working a week? Way, way, way too many. >>> When were you the most unmotivated in your life? The entire following year!

This is an excellent answer! I definitely chuckled

Re: Hire people who give a shit

#159

This article is megalomaniacal. Insisting that your company with 200+ employees will only hire people who will work themselves to the bone without any mention of how those people will be properly compensated is wild corporate propaganda. I honestly don’t know why the tech industry continues to capitulate to leaders like this who obviously, and loudly, mistreat and dehumanize their employees by insisting that if you a…

From my experience, the people who get hired are people who complain about corporate propaganda and don't work hard while what I considered hard working individuals are the ones who struggle to find work. Companies hire for mediocrity, not skill. If skill mattered, I would dedicate my life to a company. But it doesn't I so won't ever care.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

#160
The comments here are really interesting. What is the equity level where one goes from thinking like an owner to being an employee? At what equity level does one feel the things in this blogpost maybe apply? 5%? 1%? 0.5%? If startup are power-law gambles, then 0.025% can still be a great outcome.

Should a founder mentality be expected amongst early employees at a certain equity level? Why wouldn't someone want to hire someone who had that mindset, and then appropriately compensate someone for that?

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