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Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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Post by cblconfederate »

tinus_hn wrote: post #150
cblconfederate wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

aka identity politics

Here’s the story of a lady inspired by the character of lt. Uhura on the original Star Trek: https://today.duke.edu/2013/10/maejemison In the future there are going to be similar stories about people inspired by president Obama and Vice President Harris because these models show them how far they can go. It’s not about identity politics, it’s about showing people they can escape the box society appears to capture the…

There are plenty of successful german Turks though, to the point where such propaganda might have the reverse effect: why would anyone assume they can't escape.

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Post by skocznymroczny »

akie wrote: post #5

This Covid vaccine was created by a German company founded by the children of Turkish immigrants. In this time of open racism and public hostility to immigration, this needs to be pointed out and repeated. It was children of Turkish immigrants to Germany.

Most of the hostility is towards illegal immigration. As long as left-wing politicians and media merges illegal and legal immigration, and promotes abuse of asylum and rescue at sea systems for illegal immigration, such hostility will continue, and even increase.

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Post by evanmam »

oh_sigh wrote: post #146
Haunted_Cabbage wrote: post #143

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There's a slight difference between striving to save lives and striving to maximize profits for shareholders.

How many lives were saved by going into the lab on their wedding night, as opposed to the next day? If an accountant works for Pfizer, aren't they indirectly involved in saving lives too? I'm not even criticizing the fact that they went into the lab on their wedding night. I'm criticizing how unhealthy behavior that may be called out in other contexts is viewed as not only healthy behavior but commendable behavior if…

You have a point but for some people, the sacrifice might be better justified when done with a "higher" goal in mind, like making a scientific breakthrough. That goal might make things that people usually see as important, seem unimportant.

Of course, what justifies the sacrifice is a matter of perspective.

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Post by jml7c5 »

ghoomketu wrote: post #3

> even on the day of their wedding, both made time for lab work. This would be the definition of pure passion and what it takes to accomplish something like this. These people are a totally different breed compared to people I know. Kudos to them for their achievements.

It depends on the lab work. Particularly when dealing with long-running biology experiments, not keeping up with certain "maintenance" can ruin months of work. And if a researcher is going on a honeymoon, they likely need to do some last-minute preparation for their absence.

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Post by ChrisLomont »

Haunted_Cabbage wrote: post #143
oh_sigh wrote: post #140

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Why? Can one not be passionate about accounting?

There's a slight difference between striving to save lives and striving to maximize profits for shareholders.

Profits represent investible assets that enable people like this to create startups. Without profits, and the possibility of getting them, this type of research stops.

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Post by SamReidHughes »

mschuster91 wrote: post #16
akie wrote: post #5

This Covid vaccine was created by a German company founded by the children of Turkish immigrants. In this time of open racism and public hostility to immigration, this needs to be pointed out and repeated. It was children of Turkish immigrants to Germany.

The fact you're downvoted to grey saddens me. For heaven's sake this is a tech forum and especially us techies should very well know that immigration and open exchange of people and ideas is the key to success.

I don't think open exchange of people is useful, or ever has been. What has helped the U.S.'s "success" (in kicking ass, generally speaking) is one-way brain-draining of other countries.

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nencrystation wrote: post #137
texasbigdata wrote: post #89

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“Helps” is a funny term. Probably a) “has to as a last line of defense” or b) “can’t reasonably ask anyone else because it’s after hours etc” or c) it’s high conscientiousness. This probably won’t fly over very well on hacker news but the academic literature on CEOs and their work ethic, even down to physiological changes in their blood/saliva related to cortisol, suggests they work hard in general and make many sacr…

I actually cant think of a site where that would fly better, except machiavelli-suntzu-successwin-business-genius.org

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Post by marzetti »

ghoomketu wrote: post #3

> even on the day of their wedding, both made time for lab work. This would be the definition of pure passion and what it takes to accomplish something like this. These people are a totally different breed compared to people I know. Kudos to them for their achievements.

Sincere thanks to Ugur Sahin and Oezlem Tuereci for their dedication, hard work and incredible achievement.

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Post by mschuster91 »

SamReidHughes wrote: post #156
mschuster91 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact you're downvoted to grey saddens me. For heaven's sake this is a tech forum and especially us techies should very well know that immigration and open exchange of people and ideas is the key to success.

I don't think open exchange of people is useful, or ever has been. What has helped the U.S.'s "success" (in kicking ass, generally speaking) is one-way brain-draining of other countries.

There are many people in science who go to the US for research for a couple of years and then go back home - and people from the US going abroad to escape uncertain funding, enjoy new perspectives (CERN!) or the myriad of other issues that the US has (healthcare, discrimination, public schools, transportation).

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Post by djsumdog »

colaclanth wrote: post #59
m0zg wrote: post #54

Everyone is excited about "90% efficacy", but nobody mentions the rate of side effects. Hmm. If this is injected into several billion people, twice into each person, wouldn't you want to know at least an estimate of the ratio before you do that? Especially with mandatory vaccination looming on the horizon.

do you really think the thousands of scientists working on this just forgot to take into account the harm caused by the vaccine in comparison to covid?

Yes.
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