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RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by cwkoss »

procombo wrote: post #130
jaflo wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be interested in AdNauseam, a browser extension that automates this: https://adnauseam.io/

As someone deeply integrated into the ad serving world, I'd like to remind you that adnauseam traffic is very easy to filter out as noise. Nobody is paying for that traffic.

If someone using adnauseam accidentally clicks an ad (for real), can the ad network count the real click while ignoring the fake ones, or does it poison that users full dataset?

What percentage of adnauseam use do you think is filtered? Is it a full 100%?

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Post by Eli_P »

fsflover wrote: post #131
black_puppydog wrote: post #125

I read an interview with Gottfrid Warg (pirate bay co-founder) some years back. Can't find it now... What stuck with me was his disappointment that the wider torrent community simply relied on the pirate bay always making a return. There was no real effort to go beyond resilient hosting. No producing facts by superior technology. It was just a bunch of copy-cats playing whac-a-mole with the copyright industry. To par…

I prefer torrents inside I2P [0], because otherwise my IP will be shown to everyone. I wonder why there are so few people there. It's of course slow, but it's worth it. There are already quite a few torrent trackers. [0] https://geti2p.net

> I wonder why there are so few people

Maybe because people understand that it's security model is flawed: the peers in the mesh treat all the other peers as not trusted, that's okay; but the network design doesn't seem to take into account potential hostility of the physical medium itself.

Say, your ISP can tarpit packets or shape traffic, or shut down the power or cell tower in your block temporarily, and then measure how the mesh congestion changed. At the same time the mesh relies on building hop chains with TTL of 10 minutes iirc, which I think makes a peer a sitting duck. It is (was) all documented/leaked.

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Post by happy-dude »

black_puppydog wrote: post #146
happy-dude wrote: post #140

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In a strange twist of irony... This was what copyright was meant to do: promote a diverse body of works while protecting existing ones. It should come to no surprise that notable torrenting sites have many low-effort imitators. If anyone could copy stuff already out there, why spend the extra effort to innovate? I'm all for open-source, but I recognize the value of copyright (and how it protects FOSS-licensed materia…

"Copycat" in this context didn't mean literally copying TPB (although that did happen and was actually made possible by them dumping their DB at some point IIRC). Most torrent sites do seem to have an own code base. It's not like they run the same software (or at least they have different themes, I never actually checked). It is also neither surprising nor bad that the sites still have the same goals/design basics. T…

Thanks for the clarification -- I am in agreement with your points.

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Post by 29083011397778 »

officeplant wrote: post #92
Scoundreller wrote: post #8

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My cousin lives in a place with shitty internet, and regularly creates a list of YT URLs for later downloading when they go in-town. This is going to devastate them. Especially when they need to repair something or do maintenance where a rando’s video is 100x better than the manufacturer’s instructions and they download all the videos. I do the same thing before a flight or train ride (Canada has $5-$10/gb wireless p…

Newpipe on the F-Droid repo allows for video/audio downloads if they are an android user.

I would have assumed NewPipe used youtube-dl somehwere along the line, and therefore be affected by this new assault on the youtube-dl library.

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Post by officeplant »

29083011397778 wrote: post #156
officeplant wrote: post #92

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Newpipe on the F-Droid repo allows for video/audio downloads if they are an android user.

I would have assumed NewPipe used youtube-dl somehwere along the line, and therefore be affected by this new assault on the youtube-dl library.

There Github[0] page is still active so I'm assuming they may have dodged the take downs. I believe they integrated youtube-dl into the application, but because they don't outright mention it on the page they may have dodged attention from the RIAA. This is just a wild guess from me.

[0]https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe

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Post by contravariant »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #108
Buttons840 wrote: post #98

Has anyone ever experimented with reversing the analog loop with machine learning? Generating the training data would be easy. Play audio files through a speaker and record the speaker with a microphone. Then you have the original and the analog recording. Train the machine to reverse the process. Now you can grab high quality audio from any source. Same could be done for video, but would require a more elaborate set…

It makes far more sense to grab a line-out feed rather than using a speaker and a microphone. Otherwise the positioning of the microphone and the exact voice coils of the speaker and microphone would all have a dramatic effect on the EQ curve of the audio, to say nothing of stereo or the ensuing phase issues that crop up when recording audio in real life

Why even use the line-out? You can just plug it into a recording audio driver.

Video is harder, mostly because of the bandwidth.

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Post by contravariant »

tremon wrote: post #119
entropicdrifter wrote: post #108

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It makes far more sense to grab a line-out feed rather than using a speaker and a microphone. Otherwise the positioning of the microphone and the exact voice coils of the speaker and microphone would all have a dramatic effect on the EQ curve of the audio, to say nothing of stereo or the ensuing phase issues that crop up when recording audio in real life

But as long as the EQ effect of the speaker/microphone setup is constant, an AI should have no problem learning how to restore the original.

That's one big if.

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Post by bdcravens »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #134
macspoofing wrote: post #132

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That's a good question. Why is RIAA going after YouTube download software and not Google?

Ad backed music streaming has become an unexpected major source of income from music labels. That's also true for indies. I don't make money off youtube directly however my distributor claims videos using my music and I make money off ads on youtube indirectly. The payout isn't big, but it's not insignificant either. I imagine a lot of major artists make good money off youtube too. They don't if someone just download…

So perhaps they'll go after ad blockers next?
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