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One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Love this one — somebody is trying to rename "package.json" into "package": https://github.com/dinosaurjs/website/pull/28

No, he renamed it to "package: An Amazing Project.json"

Windows doesn't even let you have a colon in a filename!

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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I agree that the spam is problematic, but I feel the need to call out his "data collection". As evidence that CodeWithHarry is the cause, he says > A search for "Amazing Project" is now showing 21,177 issues. and > A search for "improve docs" shows 319,251 issues. ??? Improve docs has been a common beginner level PR since the beginning of time. Do you really think that 319k spam issues have been filed in the last day…

Love this one — somebody is trying to rename "package.json" into "package": https://github.com/dinosaurjs/website/pull/28

Not even that, the file is actually renamed "package: An Amazing Project.json". Amazing indeed!

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Is this the same story as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24643894 ? what's the difference?

This would be a continuation of that story, where someone did investigation into the cause. The original story you linked did not have a cause mentioned/found at the time it was posted.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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You know, as one of the people who sat in a room with my colleagues, listening them talk about the hours and hour of thinking they had done around how to contribute meaningfully to OSS, revising and revising till they landed on hacktoberfest, I don't find this hilarious in the least. I talked to many maintainers in the first few years of it's existence who truly benefited from the contributions. Nothing we ever did a…

> You know, as one of the people who sat in a room with my colleagues, listening them talk through the hours and hour of thinking they had done around how to contribute meaningfully to OSS, revising and revising till they landed on hacktoberfest, I don't find this hilarious in the least. I talked to many maintainers in the first few years of its existence who truly benefited from the contributions. Nothing we ever di…

Why do you think hundreds of maintainers have to clean up their repos? What is your acceptable ratio of misuse to value add?

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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I mentioned this because I've seen people bash Indians for ruining sites like Quora and Medium with lot of bad quality content. Spam job offers, freelancing sites with bloated profiles, sending unsolicited messages and resume to people in LinkedIn and AngelList. Much of this comes from us having 1/6 of world's population, but that doesn't excuse a big group from their misdeeds. I personally believe that there's a nee…

I'm almost afraid to ask this, so please assume good intent and bear with me - I promise this is a genuine question :) Different cultures definitely consider different things to be acceptable / polite / etc in the same situation (e.g., do you take your shoes off when entering another person's house?). I've heard that there's groups of Indians (possibly the descendants of certain castes?) that place a high value on en…

> if there's a cultural pressure to assertively put themselves out there and actively look for jobs in these ways.

I am a student so my world-view is highly myopic. That said, in my personal experience, there is a pressure among engineers to stand out, else they won't get a good job. Also there's a rat race mentality inculcated by our parents to excel and always one-up others, rather than to co-operate and collaborate. It was okay when we were school-students and had to contest for entrance into a renowned college. But, the "I was the topper in high school, I gotta excel in adult life, be it through hook or by crook" mentality still runs in college and (hearing from seniors and relatives) in jobs. People are eager to do the 4 hour course on Tensorflow and mention "Tensorflow expert" in their resume to get an edge, people will and do write "Hacktoberfest 2018 and 2019" in their resume, a guy who can fire up an EC2 instance will call himself "moderately proficient in AWS". I'm not joking about these, job-hunting season is starting and I've seen resume of other students mention all this. People see videos of conferences where engineers wear swag t-shirts, and associate swag with good developers, that was further intensified by this guy's video and people wanted this swag for all these reasons.

I guess I've gone slightly OT here, so I'll summarise: Herd mentality due to poor guidance, peer pressure among engineers and the societal pressure to stand out (for securing jobs) is a big culprit here

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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You know, as one of the people who sat in a room with my colleagues, listening them talk about the hours and hour of thinking they had done around how to contribute meaningfully to OSS, revising and revising till they landed on hacktoberfest, I don't find this hilarious in the least. I talked to many maintainers in the first few years of it's existence who truly benefited from the contributions. Nothing we ever did a…

(parent post tried to abolish blame and called out the grandparent post as the issue, hence why the lack of continuation) I don't, you messed up! The fact that you're actually incentivising contributors to make PRs of any quality and without standards, whilst forcing the burden on to maintainers (without reward) and you do very little (no tutorials about how to make quality PRs, no standards information on what compr…

https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/hacktoberfe...

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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I have a couple of vaguely popular repos on github (~100,000 downloads a month) Generally speaking, (T-shirt farming aside), if you find a genuine typo, or small way to improve documentation, then that PR will be very much appreciated. README-typos are quite visible, yet easy for maintainers to overlook. If you are new to GitHub, please do not be discouraged, and as with editing Wikipedia- be bold. (In the large sche…

The pull request I have seen were changing "how to install" into "how to easily install" and such. They were not fixing typos or even making sentences better. They were just meaningless changes.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Why can't Digital Ocean, this youtuber and Github just work together to make the world a little bit better? It's OK not to be perfect, but they can acknowledge their mistakes and work together to improve them.

DigitalOcean could work with maintainers to allow registration and get some kind of participation icon for maintainers to put on their repo.

Maintainers, Github and Digital Ocean could work together to define parameters of acceptance for PRs (maybe an integration?).

The YouTube could then become the face of the thing for India and show people how to make a meaningful PR on a digital ocean repo. It would also serve as an ad for them.

Just be nice to each other...

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