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Re: Vue.js 3

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Post by yandie »

pricecomstock wrote: post #147
goodoldneon wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't React do the same?

I'm not sure about React's capability with this, but Vue can very easily run with no build stage. You can load Vue from a CDN and use a couple lines of JS to point it at a DOM element in your app. Then you can write a plain JS Vue object (what goes inside the tags in a .vue file), and all this logic will apply inside the element you pointed it at. You can also write components, although that gets a little clunky with…

I find it amusing that you are allowed to run arbitrary Javascript but can't run NodeJS on your machine. Sometimes corporate security can be a theatre.

Re: Vue.js 3

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Post by jdavis703 »

_jjkk wrote: post #149
goodoldneon wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't React do the same?

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. It seems like you can only implement React using the full "modern JS stack", i.e. Node/Webpack/... So if you want to use it on one page, it's a hard sell to set up all that infrastructure (and document it for the team) On some sites I've used Vue.js by simply adding a tag with vue.min.js. On sites already using Gulp or similar, it's pretty simple to incorporate the Vue bundle a…

There is no need to run NodeJS in production with React. In fact, React doesn’t even require a fancy build system (though for anything more than a toy app you’re tempting fate.)

Re: Vue.js 3

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Post by manigandham »

_jjkk wrote: post #149
goodoldneon wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't React do the same?

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. It seems like you can only implement React using the full "modern JS stack", i.e. Node/Webpack/... So if you want to use it on one page, it's a hard sell to set up all that infrastructure (and document it for the team) On some sites I've used Vue.js by simply adding a tag with vue.min.js. On sites already using Gulp or similar, it's pretty simple to incorporate the Vue bundle a…

React can also be used with just script tags. It uses a compiler to turn JSX into a render function (the same as Vue which accepts JSX or HTML) and these compilers are written in JS and can run in the browser. Also modern browsers are much better at supporting JS modules which makes it easier to include other libraries.

Re: Vue.js 3

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Post by RNCTX »

_jjkk wrote: post #149
goodoldneon wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't React do the same?

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. It seems like you can only implement React using the full "modern JS stack", i.e. Node/Webpack/... So if you want to use it on one page, it's a hard sell to set up all that infrastructure (and document it for the team) On some sites I've used Vue.js by simply adding a tag with vue.min.js. On sites already using Gulp or similar, it's pretty simple to incorporate the Vue bundle a…

Apparently this is possible:

https://shinglyu.com/web/2018/02/08/minimal-react-js-without...

Re: Vue.js 3

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Post by superasn »

One thing I'm really excited about with this version is Vite (the snowpack type version of Vue that doesn't require webpack). It should make development so much easier.

Re: Vue.js 3

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Post by bdcravens »

didip wrote: post #63

I am impressed with the amount of energy Evan is pouring in this open source project. I am curious if he ever experience boredom working on Vue. I am also curious if Patreon based income is sustainable for the long run. What if there's another new sexy JS framework in the future?

Patreon income may not be, but Vue-based income should be.

This company focuses on development of Coldbox, a ColdFusion-based framework still in active development. If they can support a team and still continue development, Vue should be good for a while

https://www.ortussolutions.com/

Re: Vue.js 3

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Post by mariushn »

Why is IE11 support still important now? I can't find exact stats on it, but it seems <2%. Surely projects which still want to support IE11 could still stick for a while with Vue2.

Re: Vue.js 3

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Post by manigandham »

goodoldneon wrote: post #132
RNCTX wrote: post #126

Vue is the only one of the most popular 3 frameworks that can easily be used on a minimal basis to sort of "spruce up" old applications by selectively adding it here and there in the templates. Seems like they should try more marketing and community outreach toward that end. Gradual adoption is a feature / selling point not many web development frameworks can claim.

Why can't React do the same?

React and Vue can both be used directly with script tags, however the biggest difference is that React uses JSX while Vue uses HTML templates (but also supports JSX).

99% of the time, HTML is easier and faster to write, with the built-in directives providing all the functionality you need. More importantly though, HTML can be generated by every single server-side framework, and this makes it very easy to have server-side code from any language stack that becomes interactive using a Vue client-side layer.

Re: Vue.js 3

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Post by RNCTX »

yandie wrote: post #151
pricecomstock wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure about React's capability with this, but Vue can very easily run with no build stage. You can load Vue from a CDN and use a couple lines of JS to point it at a DOM element in your app. Then you can write a plain JS Vue object (what goes inside the tags in a .vue file), and all this logic will apply inside the element you pointed it at. You can also write components, although that gets a little clunky with…

I find it amusing that you are allowed to run arbitrary Javascript but can't run NodeJS on your machine. Sometimes corporate security can be a theatre.

I mean, you gotta trust someone at some point.

If they don't trust Google, Microsoft, and Apple to keep Javascript in the browser sandbox-jail then they're gonna be re-inventing an awful lot of wheels ;).

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