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All the jobs I failed to get

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Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by brian_herman »

All of my jobs: My first job was at Jewel as a bagger. My mom got me the job. The place was next to microcenter so I spent my paycheck there after work.

I quit this job because of stress.

Next job was at Michael’s a crafts store. It was seasonal and I didn’t get hired.

After that I did contract jobs on upwork doing web design and development.

I got fired from Subway because I was too slow at making sandwiches.

In college I got burned out and eventually found my career as a programmer for an insurance company.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by nullsense »

soneca wrote: post #150
nullsense wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seem to apply to a about 3 to 5 places and get an offer within that. I can't imagine 200. Though I work on a team with a guy who told me he had to apply to about 80 places. I've read his CV and it doesn't have a lot of signals that scream hire me. His pathway into software engineering is very non-typical. Despite that he's a decent developer and a great colleague.

The reasons I believe impact my poor performance: - Graduated in Brazil (nobody knows my university) - Graduated in non-CS degree - Self-taught developer after careeer change with 37 yo (used freeCodeCamp.org, not even a known boot camp) - No famous (in the US) companies in my resume Probably more things that I don’t know. I have a similar numbers of interviews coming from my “Who wants to be hired” post [0] and from…

Yeah, that makes sense.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by AlchemistCamp »

thebradbain wrote: post #124
bkanber wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're in a certain industry, you're typically looking at the median in that industry and not the national median. USD $100k is ~4 year experience software engineer salary.

Is it? Most of the new-grads I know, many with no prior full-time experience, make around $120k, and of the 9 I regularly keep up with only 1 works at a FAANG (and makes a decent amount more than $120k). The others range from startups to BigCo fintech to backhouse software role in legacy Fortune 500s. Granted, most of these jobs are on the coasts, though (but not SF)

> Most of the new-grads I know

Only about 1/4 of US adults have an accredited 4-year degree. Just being a new grad is already a huge credential. Still, that credential doesn't generally generate $120k, for any major.

Where did these new grads get their degrees? My guess is that your personal social circle has a certain pedigree that isn't the norm.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by AlchemistCamp »

nullsense wrote: post #147
PunchTornado wrote: post #131

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not by much. software salaries in the uk are not that great. 75k is top top bracket for uk.

75k USD is high end of the Senior Developer bracket in NZ too. It's depressing seeing levels.fyi. Though it's still double the national average, and it's equivalent to the median household income.

It's not that hard for Aussies or Kiwis to get a work visa in the US. Easiest path is probably to work for a US company locally and then do an intra-company transfer.

I know a few who did that, worked 3 years and went back with a healthy savings.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by vmurthy »

baxtr wrote: post #34
worldmerge wrote: post #30

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Thank you for this. I recently graduated in May with a bachelors in CS and looking at LinkedIn has been very discouraging. I know it's unhealthy to compare yourself to others but it's hard, especially when you see a lot of other people having success. Before the pandemic I was banking on going to EYEO and SIGGRAPH to network with people in the creative technology space to break into it (my goal is to be a creative te…

On a larger note: I find looking into LinkedIn quite depressing. Everyone is happy and excited and successful. There is no real value in most posts. Rather, they’re usually a variation of this: ”#supergrateful and #blessed for meeting super inspiring %SomeoneImportant today #growth #entrepreneurship %hipsterstartup #nopause” I try to stay away from it as much as I can.

The scourge of social media :). Quite some research linking depression/anxiety and social media [0] and even though my own experience is not exactly data, I am happy I don't mindlessly scroll through pics and boasts and get time to spend on other things (like HN ;-)) . LinkedIn, I am afraid is becoming very similar :(

[0] https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=social+media+depress...

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by nullsense »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #154
nullsense wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

75k USD is high end of the Senior Developer bracket in NZ too. It's depressing seeing levels.fyi. Though it's still double the national average, and it's equivalent to the median household income.

It's not that hard for Aussies or Kiwis to get a work visa in the US. Easiest path is probably to work for a US company locally and then do an intra-company transfer. I know a few who did that, worked 3 years and went back with a healthy savings.

H1B is tied to the employer though right? And it's a lottery system, so no guarantee?

The one time I went to the US I nearly had a panic attack, so I can't really imagine living there or dragging my family there, but then you look at the money and it sure looks worth dragging yourself through hell for.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by trentnix »

zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #26

I once applied for a position building digital kiosks for American Airlines - I did not get it and in retrospect that is probably better because the company is always on the edge on bankruptcy, doing furloughs and layoffs, etc. I would have had a hard time during numerous financial downturns and world events like mortgage bubble, 9/11, and COVID. I would never have worked for Tumblr which was double plus awesome. But…

I had a (scheduled as such) short consulting stint at AA back in ‘09. Horrible experience. I wouldn’t work there if they doubled my salary and let me take Fridays off.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by kra34 »

A serious and urgent question, when did "data" a collective noun warrant a plural verb ex. "the data are ambiguous"

"Data" was not treated this way in the past and now it is everywhere. Where did it come from and why did it change?

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by abhayb »

kra34 wrote: post #158

A serious and urgent question, when did "data" a collective noun warrant a plural verb ex. "the data are ambiguous" "Data" was not treated this way in the past and now it is everywhere. Where did it come from and why did it change?

Data has always been plural! Datum is the singular. But actually treating it as plural is mostly a question of where the person speaking/writing is based. Americans treat it as singular, Brits plural. See also, corporations

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

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Post by kazinator »

abhayb wrote: post #159
kra34 wrote: post #158

A serious and urgent question, when did "data" a collective noun warrant a plural verb ex. "the data are ambiguous" "Data" was not treated this way in the past and now it is everywhere. Where did it come from and why did it change?

Data has always been plural! Datum is the singular. But actually treating it as plural is mostly a question of where the person speaking/writing is based. Americans treat it as singular, Brits plural. See also, corporations

Note that in the English language, there is a rule in regard to forming compound nouns, which is that only the head of the compound can carry the plural marker.

So for instance, whereas the compound noun phrase "law school entrance exams" is perfectly fine, "law schools entrance exam" is not. It has a plural on "schools", where it is not allowed to be, because that is not the head of the noun phrase.

According to this rule, we should not have words like "data processing", unless we treat "data" as plural. If we treat "data" as the plural of "datum", we must make it "datum processing".

Is that how it is in British English, or do they still make it "data processing"?

In any case, one cannot be a proper pedant about "data" and "datum", while continuing to use terms like "data storage".

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