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Re: On Browser Tabs

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I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

3,520 here. Loser.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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A solution that seems to work for me is keep notes instead. If I am interested in something I stick a link and some brief notes in a markdown document and make sure to include as many descriptive words as possible. That way I can grep my notes folder later to look for the note I made.

For home I keep a separate file per day. For work I have a monolithic "general_notes.md" which I add stuff to sequentially. Generally work notes need to be found quickly, so one file makes sense. For home I am not so time pressured, so grepping through multiple files is an acceptable solution.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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This is quite a staggering amount imo... Why not just avoid painstaking and just start fresh? Is this a form of FOMO? Edit, you are at the point where you need a search engine for your tabs, you might as well close them and use the internet directly instead of cached in your own tabs. If I may ask, on what basis did you close all those tabs, did you read them all? What will you do with the rest?

> search engine for your tabs Yes please! I've recently got interested in Recoll, which might not know what a tab is, but does search web history. > you might as well close them and use the internet directly instead of cached in your own tabs Caching is valuable. URLs bit rot and their contents change. If you have a browser session that's old enough, the RAM contents are a saving grace.

Memex (https://github.com/WorldBrain/Memex/) provides for searching your history and bookmarks. That might help alleviate the need to maintain sets of tabs.

The Vimium extension for Firefox also happens to provide basic filtering of open tabs, although I've never tried it with anywhere near 1600. YMMV.

Other commenters have already mentioned Tree Style Tabs and similar extensions which can aid in grouping and managing things efficiently.

> URLs bit rot and their contents change. If you have a browser session that's old enough, the RAM contents are a saving grace.

This is a serious problem in my experience. To that end, Zotero is an invaluable research tool with browser extensions for (among other things) taking a snapshot of an open webpage. Its library exists externally to your browser though which might add friction to your workflow.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

"Yes, in principle I could export the list of tabs to a text file, and begin anew ..." I came here to complain that, actually, you can't . Or rather, it's surprisingly complicated to export a simple list of current tab URLs to a plain old text file. You need to dig several directories deep into /Library (or whatever, depending on your OS) and then use JSON tools to export ... I've already lost most people. Why can't…

Session Buddy on Chrome.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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I re-open it every month or so, and it didn't really change. I can't notice it when I have 10-100 tabs open. It's unbearable when I have 1000 (which happens more often than I would like to admit). It should be noted, though, that my web browsing machine is an early 2013 MacBook Pro with 8GB of RAM; It's possible I wouldn't have noticed on a faster machine.

Well, your browser without TST is going to handle 1000 no better, so it's not really about TST. For example, there are many solutions to auto-suspend old tabs so they unload from memory.

On the same hardware, the same browser with TST disabled (and no auto-suspend) easily handles 1,000 open tabs - slightly slower than it handles 100, but barely noticeable. With TST it is unbearably slow.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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I built the "first tabbed browser", NetCaptor, back in 1997. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/meet-th... My take - some of us leave tabs open way too long because we fear not being able to get back to those sites again… it’s loss aversion. Tabs aren’t the core problem per se, it’s recall. We need to solve the “I want to get back here again” problem. I primarily use Brave and effectively start fres…

Good point. I've lost track of the number of start-ups that proposed some kind of "Search your browser history" functionality, which, to be honest, I've wished for myself. But I don't know of any that have even made it to released-product stage.

Does Memex resemble what you were wishing for? (https://github.com/WorldBrain/Memex/)

Re: On Browser Tabs

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I use a chrome plugin (List All Tabs) which is able to show tabs as well as filter them and close them. I can type github in the filter and then jump to the one tab I search or close all the tabs I don't need.

In Firefox, the Vimium extension provides basic filtering functionality. No idea how well it would scale to 1600 tabs though.

I also use vimium on Chrome, but I never knew about any functionality for searching tabs. What key is it?

Also I'm not sure if it would be helpful for websites like github where I disable vimium to be able to use the website's hotkey functionality.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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> The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. You know that you can bookmark and re-visit pages right?

This is surprisingly hard on some sites (try bookmarking your progress through a twitter thread, or your progress in an endless scroll site)

Just let it go, then.

FOMO just leads to anxiety.

Re: On Browser Tabs

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> The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. You know that you can bookmark and re-visit pages right?

This is surprisingly hard on some sites (try bookmarking your progress through a twitter thread, or your progress in an endless scroll site)

We would you want to bookmark your progress through a twitter thread? And anycase, alright, but 1000 of them?

Re: On Browser Tabs

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I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

If you're already on FF, you need tree style tabs. This extension is so popular it has its own extensions.

I also have dozens of things I keep an eye on, so there's no way tabs across the top would help me at all.

Main things I find useful about TST:

- You lose horizontal space, not vertical. This is great because you can now read the titles. I also do some magic to get rid of the tabs across the top, so I get some space back vertically.

- You can collapse a given tree.

- You can suspend a tab or a tree. Let's face it, most of your 1600 tabs do not need to be using resources. With suspend you keep the title and place so you don't lose it from your brain, but it doesn't sit there and eat RAM and CPU.

- You can style the sidebar to your liking. I like to make sure mail and slack tabs are their own colour, because they tend to be project roots from which many other tabs are spawned, and when they're uncollapsed I want to visually separate a set of tabs from the next. I also highlight the current tab.

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