How I got the French Tech Visa to start my company in France

Post by ttwy2020 » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 6:52 PM UTC

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I would say the opposite after done some traveling, it's honestly one of the best countries when it comes to racism. There are very very few countries in the world where you can just arrive there and be treated as local from day 1, even in Europe. It's just focused strongly on integration instead of being focused on multiculturalism like in the anglosphere. And you really need to understand that because US values don…

Yes, racism in Europe is due to nativism. It's not as bad as asian countries though. Imagine if native americans were still around and you immigrated to the United States or Canada. Chances are the statues, official languages, culture (music etc.), food and mindset would be heavily influenced by the native american population. Although English/French/Spanish might be accepted languages, it would be a constant fight a…

Post by mathh » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 7:09 PM UTC

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Honestly, this reads as those books titled "How to make money selling books on Amazon". Living in France, I can tell, France is very startup hostile. The amount of taxes a company has to pay and the amount of paperwork to do (or money to delegate it) is just absurd. The only way a small tech company can make any money and be sustainable (let alone grow) is having all employees as associates (with all the organization…

Yeah, as a French I can only completely agree. The amount of paperwork is just absurd. For instance, when you create a company, you have to pay a separate fee (~200eur) to a private "official journal" to publish the fact that you're creating a company. That's just plain racket, and that kind of things is everywhere. France is dying, because France can't have a private sector because of its regulations. The fun part i…

Post by xur17 » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 7:26 PM UTC

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Here's the taxes on French salaries for reference. - The company has 60k budget. - 25% goes to employer tax (charges patronales). 45k left. That's commonly called the gross salary (salaire brut). - 25% goes to employee tax (charges sociales). 34k left. Commonly called the net salary (salaire net) - Employee pays income tax at the end of the year. The rate is progressive and highly variable depending on personal situa…

This is grossly inaccurate. What you're calling taxes, are fees that allow employee to get several benefits. Practically speaking, these are delayed salary. They include social security, unemployment benefits, retirement benefits, training ... When your employee is sick, they can stay at home without losing their pay, and without your company paying for it. They can seek medical treatment without risking bankruptcy.…

Post by smcphile » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 7:33 PM UTC

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> From what I heard France has strong worker protection laws, even stronger than Germany. Do you think this is/could be a problem for startups? Yes, France has strong worker protection laws, but if someone is found to have been abusively fired there’s a cap on how much they can sue for. The amount is based on how long they’ve been with the company. For example, after 2 years, the amount is 3 months salary, after 5 ye…

If an employer has layoffs what kind of severance does the employee get?

Post by opportune » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 7:52 PM UTC

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Honestly, this reads as those books titled "How to make money selling books on Amazon". Living in France, I can tell, France is very startup hostile. The amount of taxes a company has to pay and the amount of paperwork to do (or money to delegate it) is just absurd. The only way a small tech company can make any money and be sustainable (let alone grow) is having all employees as associates (with all the organization…

I wish we could get some info from an expert on that topic, as a French person some of my friends said they were surprised how much help they got from the government (grants, tax rebates, etc.) and they ended up doing all their software development in France, while the hardware was built in China, because they found the dev quality/cost ratio was so good. There's also money you can get for creating a startup if you v…