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ICE changes exemptions for foreign students taking online courses in Fall 2020

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Re: ICE changes exemptions for foreign students taking online courses in Fall 2020

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Post by bdhe »

aaomidi wrote: post #149
bdhe wrote: post #131

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The reason the other commentator thinks your post is bullshit because it doesn't address the clause in the order that requires F-1 students currently already in the country to leave if classes are online-only. This order is not done by some agency being thoughtful about covid19, it's about using the pandemic to put out more xenophobia that the WH will more than approve.

Thank you. I just didn't see a point in discussing this further. Isolationism and enforcing an extra set of standards on __others__ is always disgusting to me. Especially when we've been failing at every step of the way of this pandemic.

True. You'll see later that the commenter simultaneously holds the view that covid is overblown but also that we need to move heaven and earth to save schoolchildren, while I bet they're in full support of Trump's asinine "SCHOOLS MUST OPEN!" tweet.

Re: ICE changes exemptions for foreign students taking online courses in Fall 2020

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Post by esalman »

sukilot wrote: post #138
esalman wrote: post #127

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You may not know this, but graduate research assistants make less than what many Americans get in unemployment benefits. You are basically getting cutting-edge research work done by non-immigrants for that money. Do you think it is more beneficial for your country to pay a US citizen for doing nothing? I am a GRA and I work on translational research in neuroimaging and data science. With my career prospects dwindling…

Unemployment payments are temporary, not 4 years.

Yes, once you get employed you keep making even more.

Re: ICE changes exemptions for foreign students taking online courses in Fall 2020

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Post by dannyw »

p49k wrote: post #150
yorwba wrote: post #139

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Yes. https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/fpdKM1iJBr0as6osJ2e0Tw 李慧早就决定回国，但是她两次订到的“便宜机票”，航班都被取消了。现在，她已经订不到低于4万元价格的机票了，有可能订到的机票，价格几乎都在“6万出头”。当然，这些机票都在一些黄牛手里，她身边不少想回国的中国留学生，都是通过黄牛高价订票。 Li Hui decided to return home long ago, but the "cheap tickets" she had booked twice had their flights cancelled. Now, she can't find any ticket with a price of less than 40,000 yuan. The tickets she might be able to book are almost all from 60,00…

Doesn’t sound correct. If an airline cancels a flight, they will generally reschedule you for the next possible flight.

Airlines don't follow SOP when they are on the verge of bankruptcy and needs $ any way it can.

Re: ICE changes exemptions for foreign students taking online courses in Fall 2020

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Post by yorwba »

p49k wrote: post #150
yorwba wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/fpdKM1iJBr0as6osJ2e0Tw 李慧早就决定回国，但是她两次订到的“便宜机票”，航班都被取消了。现在，她已经订不到低于4万元价格的机票了，有可能订到的机票，价格几乎都在“6万出头”。当然，这些机票都在一些黄牛手里，她身边不少想回国的中国留学生，都是通过黄牛高价订票。 Li Hui decided to return home long ago, but the "cheap tickets" she had booked twice had their flights cancelled. Now, she can't find any ticket with a price of less than 40,000 yuan. The tickets she might be able to book are almost all from 60,00…

Doesn’t sound correct. If an airline cancels a flight, they will generally reschedule you for the next possible flight.

The article is from June. Those were flights she had booked in February/April for May/June. They got canceled because of the pandemic. Same for the next flight. And all others after that. The airline couldn't reschedule her for the next flight because it wasn't flying.

Re: ICE changes exemptions for foreign students taking online courses in Fall 2020

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Post by jelliclesfarm »

gene91 wrote: post #130
jelliclesfarm wrote: post #109

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I finally shelled out the $ for the paid version of a flight radar app because I was curious. The friendly skies are mostly empty. 85ish% of all flights in and out of Bay Area is from/to China. I always had the free version but the paid version will ping me every time a flight goes over me(my phone actually) and for a mere $6.99/month, I can find out the air traffic of the area. It’s an affordable hobby for covid. I…

You may be looking at freight flights. There are 8 (4 until recently) pairs of commercial passenger flights between US and mainland China per week. 2 of those starts/ends Bay Area.

That’s what I thought too. The really tiny number of other flights illustrates how much air traffic has diminished. Fascinating.
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