Turkey determined to control social media platforms, Erdogan says

Post by enraged_camel » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 6:20 PM UTC

brnt wrote: post #107

hansjorg wrote: post #98

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This is a GO masquerading as an NGO. A caveat lector is appropriate whenever someone brings them up.

I was with you until your used to word 'masquerading'. Nothing about Freedom House is a masquerade. If you don't share sources, then don't please write such things. [edit] Can't reply below: Freedom House is NOT the State Department. They're a funder, but not the only one. So your description still in incorrect or requires sourcing.

Post by riffic » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 6:25 PM UTC

Post by adrr » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 6:33 PM UTC

analyte123 wrote: post #128

briefcomment wrote: post #24

In a dictatorship, cracking down on social media is a no brainer. But I think social media undermines democracies as well. Social media vastly amplifies loud minorities. Democracy assumes that the majority of people are reasonable, so majority rule will also be reasonable. Loud minorities undermine majority rule. Loud minorities have always existed, but social media is now amplifying them to the point of obscuring wh…

Legacy media amplifies a loud minority too: owners, managers, and employees of media corporations. Most of the "controversy" around social media, stoked by legacy media, comes down to the old loud minority not liking that a different loud minority might get a say.

Post by yodelshady » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 6:39 PM UTC

ferzul wrote: post #123

salmonfamine wrote: post #100

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I think we're encountering a fundamental conflict between an unregulated free market and a digital economy that doesn't have any notion of scarcity or cost. The old paradigm just doesn't fit. And the result is that a handful of tech employees and billionaires can wield outsized influence over the dominant media channels and public forums of the entire world without any democratic input or regulatory oversight. The fa…

so how does that work? i cannot think of a workable solution short of an end to the world wide web, and the beginning of a system of national internets and data ports (as in, places you send your data to to export them from one country and import them to another). otherwise, the democratic oversight will just be whatever the u.s can manage. the internet is already falling apart; i notice many u.s media sites are inac…

Post by luckylion » Wed, Jul 01, 2020, 6:46 PM UTC

lowdose wrote: post #147

luckylion wrote: post #47

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Growth is irrelevant unless you're a net-contributor. The EU really doesn't need more underdeveloped economies to support, it needs to get everybody to a similar level and deal with the tax havens, not do some SV-hypergrowth model where the issues will magically resolve themselves if only you can have 15% population growth by acquiring more members.

In my view China has used exactly some SV-hypergrowth model where almost every Chinese living is 50x better off than their parents.