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I liked the article, I just hate the inconsistency here on HN when it comes to humorous/evocative submissions and comments. We scold some for violating the guidelines, and we bless others. Can we sometimes be more relaxed about what is submitted? If the answer is yes as you are indicating, can we make it this way all the time? Ultimately the evolving community here will make the final judgement. I just feel that the…

We scold some for violating the guidelines, and we bless others. That's really the curse of comedy. The whole point of comedy is to be subversive, to sneak in under the radar of "good taste" and "propriety." But it's hard to do that, a lot of the time it gets rejected out of hand, and it seems very inconsistent.

Absolutely, HN has its fair share of inappropriate/bad jokes, but I think it happens more often because the guidelines are fairly agnostic.

Comedy is subversive, but the venue is usually not. When a comedian gives a routine on stage, the audience is primed and has certain expectations. When the audience's expectations are not aligned, it is bad for both the comedian and the audience.

My limited experiences on HN as a junior user have yielded a certain kind of fuzziness as to what is acceptable. On any given day, there is a lot of variance in the content, but usually HNish and that's a good thing. Officially, the guidelines are posted and they have an emphasis on intellectual stuff/tone, but leave evocative content unexplained. So the community decides, which is usually sporadic, hap-hazard, heavily-dependent on who posted the submission (people have expectations about what Zed Shaw is going to say), and the touchiness of the content. This probably doesn't happen in other communities that are more clearly guided as either relaxed or strict.

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Is this really necessary? I mean... It's kind of childish. Using profanity to fake coolness and rage driven by allegedly unique insights and experiences... Meh.

It's the same sort of attitude that invented nerdcore, minus any lyrical wit or musica merit.

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Does Programming, Motherfucker really scale though? Every process listed is about teams of people Programming Together, Motherfucker. I've seen two people engaged in Programming, Motherfucker without Talking to Eachother, Motherfucker and the results were Disastrous, Motherfucker.

Nothing really scales. There is no process that will allow 100 hacks to make a Michelangelo, if you want a Michelangelo you're going to have to fucking hire him. If this bullshit really worked then corporate IT departments would be the envy of every startup out there. If your software is late/buggy/whatever the solution is rarely adding people / process. It's usually removing people / process. Process is what allows…

"You know you're finish coding not when there is nothing more to add but when there is nothing more to remove."

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"The path of the righteous programmer is beset on all sides by the inequities of the clueless and the tyranny of evil project managers. Blessed is he, who in the name of achievement and solid technology, shepherds the users through the valley of ineptitude, for he is truly his customer's keeper and the finder of lost solutions. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would at…

But...Zed's dead.

o'rly? i thought he lives forever.

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Zed is the ultimate troll whether it's intentional or not. He must spend a lot of time laughing at all the time & attention he gets for doing and saying silly things, things that people end up taking far too seriously. The fact that I'm here commenting on this story saddens me.

I'm just trying to brighten the day of my fellow work-slaves.

All I can say is that it appears to work for a lot of them.

Still, I fear the message may get suffocated by the style.

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...it's virtually content free... Not if you run it through ReadBetweenTheLines(). Hey Thomas, lighten up. Normally I'd agree with you, but not today. This post hit me just right... I'm having a shitty day. Really shitty. 6 levels deep into garbage that never should have been written, trying to add one little feature. Asking myself every 7 minutes if I have time to rewrite without shifting everything else out a week.…

No retreat! No surrender! I'm here watching the battlements keeping the undesirable content out when you can't be. It's what's called "watching your back". I know you'd do the same for me! :| I really do believe this stuff is a slippery slope. It makes the site worse. Just like yesterday's "Apple Says Yes" comment thread. But I made my snarky comment about it, hit my flag button, and now I'm done. I'm not out for a h…

Yes. You are just as welcome to flag this as we are to vote this up, and then we can let democracy sort this out while we go Program, Motherfucker.

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#158

I'm currently tasked with cleaning up a project which no one can explain how it all worked because none of the Programming Motherfuckers bothered to write any Documentation, Motherfucker.

Code written by true programming motherfuckers is self-documenting, motherfucker.

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Does Programming, Motherfucker really scale though? Every process listed is about teams of people Programming Together, Motherfucker. I've seen two people engaged in Programming, Motherfucker without Talking to Eachother, Motherfucker and the results were Disastrous, Motherfucker.

You can't talk to your colleagues without a Scrum meeting? That seems to be a personal issue, not a methodology issue.

It is like that in parts of my company. If I need something, I wander over to the desk of the person who works on it, who I know, and I say, how about it, and he says, cool (or vice versa).

The other group write up huge requirements documents, set up Sharepoint sites and wikis, raise tickets and Jiras, you name it, but they never talk to each other and so they get nothing done...

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