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Re: ZFS Removes References to Slavery

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Is Linux going to be next? Let's ask Mr Torvalds nicely to remove all master / slave references in the Linux kernel because it is 'offensive'. /s I don't think such a request is practical given the kLOCs of those references which will break other software.

Because anything using the word master must exclusively imply a slave. What about master/apprentice? Maybe the naming of stuff isn't the problem but the lenses that people view things through that distort reality into some stereotype? The glass doesn't have to be half empty. There are infinite colours between black and white. Racism is a behaviour of people and people's behaviour is governed by how they view the world around them.

I've been using git for a long time and this is the first time I have ever considered any sort of racial connection to the naming of the master branch. Last I checked master has more than one definition in the dictionary - which by the way might actually be something worth reading instead of pointlessly causing drama for the sake of marketing. Because let's face it - Microsoft didn't just pull this stunt because they decided to be noble.

Re: ZFS Removes References to Slavery

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The title right now: 'ZFS Removes References to Slavery'. Probably 95% of the commenters have not read TFA in sufficient detail to argue minutiae details. They see 'language changed in support of the dominant political current' and link it to Newspeak because that's the only frame of reference most people are aware of. It's not like it's an isolated incident, there is plenty of language redefinition, history rewritin…

> Probably 95% of the commenters have not read TFA in sufficient detail to argue minutiae details. They see 'language changed in support of the dominant political current' and link it to Newspeak That might be the first Orwellian thing in this thread - people see a thing they've been told is bad and done by bad people and they need to get their Two Minutes Hate out, and they don't have the intellectual curiosity to s…

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Re: ZFS Removes References to Slavery

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No technical reason, but clearly a political reason. And politics matter in an open project where diversity and collaboration are so important to their long-life goals. You don't agree —and that's fine— but does it harm you to rename it? That is past the initial inconvenience of it not being the word that it's been before... Is that any more inconvenient than the other API changes that almost all software goes throug…

What harm does it do to rename things based on nothing but the pathetic impulse to abide by the nonsensical PC agenda? Well, it introduces the need for me as a developer to adjust to a new naming scheme for no good reason, we know APIs change all the time, and adjusting to new naming schemes is part of the job, but when a project decides to break an API its always for a good reason, no professional team will ever bre…

I can't tell if I'm just spinning my wheels at this point, but they're not trying to make themselves feel better, it's about fostering an environment for including those who do care. OpenZFS wants a more diverse user and developer community. Good for them.

And if you think that no professional developers ever break their APIs on a whim, you're either very young, or haven't been paying attention. Google does this all the time across their ecosystem. It's annoying, but you learn to get over it.

If you don't like it, fork it.

Re: ZFS Removes References to Slavery

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What harm does it do to rename things based on nothing but the pathetic impulse to abide by the nonsensical PC agenda? Well, it introduces the need for me as a developer to adjust to a new naming scheme for no good reason, we know APIs change all the time, and adjusting to new naming schemes is part of the job, but when a project decides to break an API its always for a good reason, no professional team will ever bre…

I can't tell if I'm just spinning my wheels at this point, but they're not trying to make themselves feel better, it's about fostering an environment for including those who do care. OpenZFS wants a more diverse user and developer community. Good for them. And if you think that no professional developers ever break their APIs on a whim, you're either very young, or haven't been paying attention. Google does this all…

"it's about fostering an environment for including those who do care", that's exactly right, and my whole argument is that those who do care are not the ones that are affected by slavery, the people that care about these innocuous things are first-world neocons who haven't had to deal with any real problems in their lives, and my annoyance comes by the fact that people now just don't seem to have the guts to stand up to these trolls; this literally won't help make their community or userbase more diverse, in any case, it introduces confusion because any guides or tutorials around the net that used the term slave are now misleading/deprecated
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