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Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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I don't think it's because people are offended at the use of the word master, in this case. I think, that it's symbolic. By making a point of getting rid of the word master, you're showing that black lives matter.

Are we going to get rid of every word that a plantation owner ever used to insult the slaves? For words that specifically have no purpose other than conveying hate, I can understand stamping them out. But master has quite a few other meanings, most of which I would think existed before institutionalized slavery of black people existed. Seems a bit unproductive to target it. They had supervisors - should we stop using…

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Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Why don't we have a Native American history month, or Hispanic? Is it because those races are just like white people, never have to face discrimination? Never have anyone judge them because of how they look?

Native American Heritage Month is November, Latinx Heritage Month is from September 15 to October 15.

When's Muslim history month? Jewish history month? Aramaic history month? Japanese history month?

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

#155
If we want we could remove "master" from everyday usage:

master branch/copy - that's your main or primary

master degree - is now an expert degree

martial arts master - congratulations, you're a guru!

master bedroom - is now your main, great or grand bedroom (in fact it used to be called the main bedroom not that long ago)

skill mastery - you quashed it!

Should we make these changes? I don't know, I'm a white guy. What I do know is it's time to put an end to systemic racism. If making these seemingly small changes are enough to change people's worldview in a meaningful way then I think we should explore it. There's potentially a lot to gain for such seemingly trivial and small changes in word usage.

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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You keep complaining about indulging! What's wrong with indulging in something every once in while?

If your indulging hurts others, then it is something worth complaining about.

I don't exactly understand how you're hurt by this, but fair enough.

Utilitarianism is a philosophical framework. It's not for me, but based on your comments you might be into it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Using the term master doesn't bother me - in my opinion the idea of the master/slave dynamic is much less problematic when you're talking in the context of bits and bytes flicking up and down on some silicon. Having said that, if it bothers people, change it. I do suspect to a certain extent though that people are more interested in changing it because they're worried it might be offensive to other people than actual…

> or are there just a load of white people who have focused on literally the most unimportant aspect of being a black person in the tech community?

Seems that way. It's actually offensive to suggest that such a person should be offended in the first place. It's a "we know better than you and you should be offended" attitude.

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Native American Heritage Month is November, Latinx Heritage Month is from September 15 to October 15.

When's Muslim history month? Jewish history month? Aramaic history month? Japanese history month?

Welp, guess you're right. There probably isn't a specific month-long celebration for every race, religion, culture, ethnicity, nationality, profession or identity on Earth.

Although California, at least (possibly other states, it's not worth my time to check), and Canada have Muslim appreciation/history months, and Jewish American Heritage month is in May, as is Asian Pacific American Heritage month.

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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What about people who lost somebody to a python attack?

Do we have a national problem with pythons attacking a certain segment of our population? No? But you may be right that it's insensitive to those suffering from ophidiophobia.

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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This makes me sad. The only thing I can do in a case like that is to ABANDON every tool (having a replacement) whenever the company / group behind it starts to drift from the core idea toward strange waters having nothing to do with the objectives of that group... I urge you to do the same. Consider that personal integrity (calling a scam a scam is a matter of honor) is a crucial factor in being in a good relationship with oneself. Let's not accept immaturity as a new norm. Let's slowly and methodically make unfit ideas die, like evolution does. Peace. PS: I never thought that I 'll live thru that kind of crap from tech industry on a large scale. PS2: Think what would happen if evolution would be so easy on its creatures, leaving partially-sound ideas as blueprints for the humanity to deal with. You eat an apple, and you crash your teeth on an unexpected brick of gold inside of it. What? Although gold is precious, a bar of gold found that way is a misery. And it makes the existence of that kind of apple just... Inelegant. Wise nature doesn't do that, and you shouldn't too. Some things are the way they are because it's the most optimal way for them to be. The passage of time is an excellent tutor of what might be considered as a proven solution. The master branch concept has been working for a long time. I have it in my muscle memory by now. And NOW some kind of enlightened, progressive geniuses are going to tinker with how the feedback loops between my mind and the universe have been set up? No way bozos. Get back to school. Take some lessons on philosophy, and maybe even oh history, so you can understand that a wise man isn't going to speak until it's needed. Not even to mention that he isn't going to progressively cry on anyone's shoulder that he doesn't like a this or that definition. I'm a master of my own self, therefore I'm a racist. Said no one to anyone ;) One thing is sure - I'm not going to be a slave to the puppets of the neo-marxist war on language.
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