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AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

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Re: AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

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This is terrible. I've had T-Mobile for 3 years now, and although I had terrible reception sometimes (granted expecting reception in an underground laboratory might not be so reasonable, but my sprint friends had it), the customer service and voice plans were A+.

ATT screwed me seven years ago and I vowed never to take their business again (from what I hear their customer service is still not much better), so I guess if this goes through it's goodbye T-Mobile.

Re: AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

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It's a natural fit for AT&T to buy T-Mobile. They both 3G GSM (UMTS) technology. T-Mobile is probably better in some key markets than AT&T, most notably New York (City). The one issue with T-Mobile is it uses the fairly nonstandard 1870 MHz frequency. I don't know of any other carrier that does (anywhere). I assume this is because AT&T has the rights to the more common frequencies in the relevant markets? I wonder wh…

The one issue with T-Mobile is it uses the fairly nonstandard 1870 MHz frequency

Actually, T-Mobile uses the AWS spectrum (in addition to PCS/1900MHz spectrum) which has the uplink around 1700MHz and the downlink around 2100MHz. AT&T and Verizon both have AWS holdings as well as Cricket, MetroPCS, and others. It's standard spectrum and MetroPCS and Cricket are actively using it for service today. AT&T and Verizon seem to be holding it to use for LTE in the future when increased capacity becomes necessary.

If you'd like to learn more about AWS spectrum and see some nice maps of who bought what, Phone Scoop has a great article: http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=99&p=14...

Re: AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

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post #30

It's a natural fit for AT&T to buy T-Mobile. They both 3G GSM (UMTS) technology. T-Mobile is probably better in some key markets than AT&T, most notably New York (City). The one issue with T-Mobile is it uses the fairly nonstandard 1870 MHz frequency. I don't know of any other carrier that does (anywhere). I assume this is because AT&T has the rights to the more common frequencies in the relevant markets? I wonder wh…

Even if you could simply swap your SIM card to swap providers in the US, the majority of customers would not suddenly become portable; people don't want to pay $500 up front for a phone, even though they're paying more down the line.

If you don't want to pay upfront for your TV or laptop, you just use a credit card. And what is even more important here, if you can pay upfront for your TV or laptop, you don't have to pay any interest. There's no reason whatsoever your network provider should provide you a mandatory loan for your phone with completely non-transparent conditions.

Re: AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

#155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoever figures out a way to convey sarcasm in text is going to make billions

In certain Ethiopic languages, sarcasm and unreal phrases are indicated at the end of a sentence with a sarcasm mark called temherte slaqî or temherte slaq (U+00A1) (¡), a character that looks like the inverted exclamation point. [1] Make the check out to my name. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_punctuation#Temherte_slaq...

"Make the check out to my name."

I was being sarcastic.

Re: AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

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post #30

It's a natural fit for AT&T to buy T-Mobile. They both 3G GSM (UMTS) technology. T-Mobile is probably better in some key markets than AT&T, most notably New York (City). The one issue with T-Mobile is it uses the fairly nonstandard 1870 MHz frequency. I don't know of any other carrier that does (anywhere). I assume this is because AT&T has the rights to the more common frequencies in the relevant markets? I wonder wh…

I can see this acquisition facing some serious regulatory and legislative scrutiny.

I would imagine AT&T has a certain number of favors to cash in at this point.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/AT%26T#Privac...

Re: AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

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post #154
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you could simply swap your SIM card to swap providers in the US, the majority of customers would not suddenly become portable; people don't want to pay $500 up front for a phone, even though they're paying more down the line.

If you don't want to pay upfront for your TV or laptop, you just use a credit card. And what is even more important here, if you can pay upfront for your TV or laptop, you don't have to pay any interest. There's no reason whatsoever your network provider should provide you a mandatory loan for your phone with completely non-transparent conditions.

I think the point that is trying to be made is that the $500 price tag is influenced by the fact that most people buy the phone subsidized, and never see that price tag. I.e. if there was no phone subsidization, then there would be more competition on the actual price of the phone rather than just on the subsidized price of the phone.

Re: AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

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post #30

It's a natural fit for AT&T to buy T-Mobile. They both 3G GSM (UMTS) technology. T-Mobile is probably better in some key markets than AT&T, most notably New York (City). The one issue with T-Mobile is it uses the fairly nonstandard 1870 MHz frequency. I don't know of any other carrier that does (anywhere). I assume this is because AT&T has the rights to the more common frequencies in the relevant markets? I wonder wh…

> The one issue with T-Mobile is it uses the fairly nonstandard 1870 MHz frequency. I don't know of any other carrier that does (anywhere). I think you mean GSM/UMTS band II (PCS), as 1870 is in the uplink portion of PCS (1850–1910MHz). That's a pretty standard frequency in North America. All four major US carriers (ATT, T-Mo, Verizon, and Sprint) operate in it (CDMA band class 1 overlaps with UMTS band II), as well…

Was AWS a standard before T-Mobile started using it, or was it standardized retroactively?

Re: AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to belabor the point, but it's worth noticing that it was a lack of regulation that caused the mess in the US. The FCC should have just mandated one technology (as in most other countries).

Having the government decided which technologies can be used might have had some benefits here but it seems like there would be a lot less work on making technologies better and a lot more work on lobbying if that were the case.

The government could have just mandated that the industry had to settle on a single standard (without the government needing to specify which technology to use).

Re: AT&T to Acquire T-Mobile USA for $39 Billion

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I wonder if this means that the percentage of Android phones that can't sideload direct from the carrier is going to go up. From what I understand, T-mobile doesn't block that, but AT&T does.

AT&T also blocks installation of non-market software on their Android phones, so if you wanted to install a recent build of ConnectBot or whatever, you were SOL. That is, unless your phone can be rooted/reimaged.

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