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Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by xwdv »

Why would you hire this guy? What tech companies wants employees that are just going to walk off whenever some crisis of the year erupts? Why not take a stand and continue to work to make Facebook better from within?

I know, because he doesn't actually give a shit about Facebook and this is a convenient way for him to gain some social exposure while also quitting a job he wanted to quit for a while anyway. He happily took home the $250k loot for years. Is he donating a good portion of that excess cash to relevant organizations? Probably not.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by commandlinefan »

hart_russell wrote: post #125

And once again we’re back in 2018 trying to figure out whether these private companies should be considered “public squares”. I personally think speech censorship, even by a private company, is wrong. However, there’s so much grey area that one could argue either way.

> speech censorship, even by a private company

It seems to me that Facebook (or at least Mark Zuckerberg) actually agrees with you and wants FB to be an open platform, but are being pressured by activists to censor against their wishes. This kind of goes beyond "they're a private company, they can do what they want": it would appear that they can't do what they want.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by zarkov99 »

Fair enough I suppose. He would like to work in a place that is willing to suppress the speech of the POTUS so as to avoid exciting the violent ignoramus. I am glad that isn't Facebook and I hope he finds a nice job as long as he is never, ever, put in a position where he gets to decide what information others have access to.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by davidw »

anonymousab wrote: post #129
mchusma wrote: post #49

I don't understand why doesn't Facebook just: -Allow all posts -Allow users to customize what they want to see (e.g. "dont show me posts that glorify violence" or "only allow covid posts that match WHO guidelines" or "allow exceptions from political figures or of historical significance") and allow users to ban hide posts that are found untruthful by third parties (snopes, etc). To me effectively everyone wins. Faceb…

Defaults are important because, fundamentally, misinformation and superstition spread faster, farther and stronger than the truth, with much more staying power. There's also the practical problem with social networks - within a degree or two of connections, you'll at least have some people who are part of communities covered by your own blocks. But it is in Facebook's interests to show you those communities and exten…

> Defaults are important because, fundamentally, misinformation and superstition spread faster, farther and stronger than the truth, with much more staying power.

The amount of effort involved in telling a lie is pretty low. Going out to do good research to tell the truth is often much more expensive in terms of effort.

Or, said another way:

"The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by kranner »

gdsdfe wrote: post #97
kranner wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a privilege when it is relatively accessible to some and not to others. Given that it's much easier for a kid in the Western hemisphere to learn coding than for a poor kid in a remote village in Bangladesh, it is a privilege for the former that the latter doesn't have.

I come from a poor country, I was selling shoes since the age of 13 to be able to pay for my school books, now I have a 100k job ... I didn't get here because I was privileged, I worked my ass off. was I lucky? yes but not privileged.

The other people back in your country of origin who didn’t make it because of physical or mental illness, lack of opportunities you may have had, bad turns of fate, etc —- would you not think of them as even less privileged than yourself?

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by thinkharderdev »

blickentwapft wrote: post #14
ordinaryradical wrote: post #8

He’s standing up for what he believes. You can disagree with his convictions, but you should admire anyone who risks personal and financial consequences for sticking to their guns. That’s what actual morality is—not just a “belief” that is talked about but acted upon even when the results will be costly.

It’s a highly privileged position to be in to make a personal stand and leave your $250,000 job for another $250,000 job. Not judging this way or that, just saying.

I look at it a little differently. The point is not to make some noble sacrifice, but to actually try and create actual substantive change. I would imagine that Facebook, like all tech companies, cares A LOT about their ability to recruit and retain talent. So if their employees start resigning and talented engineers are averse to work at Facebook then that will absolutely be something that FB tries to solve.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by gorgoiler »

Focus on impact. Do you have more leverage as an ongoing employee, or as a soon-to-be outsider who literally called the CEO a liar?

If it’s personal morality then so be it, but if that’s the case then keep it personal, otherwise you are really just virtue signaling.

I suspect June 12 being their last day is wishful thinking. If I treated my employer with this much contempt I would expect to be a walked out.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by seesawtron »

kiplkipl wrote: post #121
12xo wrote: post #39

Social media is fast food. If you eat it all the time it makes you feel awful and will destroy your mental and physical health. But its cheap, easy to get and tastes really good... So stupid people love it.

You're on social media

HN is a forum, but very different from places like Facebook and Reddit.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by yoz-y »

cally wrote: post #58
gdsdfe wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's much more than most people have done and having the skills to be payed $250,000 is not a privilege. you don't wake up one day knowing how to code it'a a lot of work.

True. Most likely he was well educated and taught skills that enhanced his ability to work hard in a stable enviroment.

Likely, yes. But we know nothing about his background so it's also quite unfair to assume anything.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by throwaway_pdp09 »

whatshisface wrote: post #54
blickentwapft wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whilst his stance is to be applauded, it lessens the value of the stance given that he’s not sacrificing much and won’t suffer for his cause. Doesn’t mean it’s not the right thing to do, just that it would carry more weight if he was leaving to go work at Burger King. Then you’d say “man that guy stands tall”. Edit: Ok reasonable criticism, I’ll withdraw.

He would stand even taller if while he was quitting Facebook, he was running in to a burning building to save a child. Of course, while saving a child is to be applauded, it lessens the value of his stance that he's not also saving 10,000 from starvation. Of course, that would be nothing next to achieving world peace while eliminating corruption in every government in the world. I'm not saying he shouldn't quit Faceb…

While there's no proof of life on other planets, there's equally no proof there's not, and it might be suffering terribly and frankly I don't see this guy doing anything about that either.

Until he does it's just virtue signalling.

(yeah, I don't get some people either)

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