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Re: Ask HN: What collaborative whiteboard are you using?

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I’d love to hear what hardware people are using. I’m looking at buying hardware for some of our team, but obviously woild like to find the right cost/quality ratio.

I’ve been using a Wacom Intuos S combined with Microsoft Whiteboard. The Intuos wasn’t outrageously expensive and has been working really well for my needs (mostly just process and class diagrams during online architecture discussions).

Thank you!

Re: Ask HN: What collaborative whiteboard are you using?

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Which hardware are you using exactly? There are a lot of different price points; I’d love to find the cheapest that is still good enough to be useful.

Any of the low-end Wacom tablets would do the trick, and you don't need the current model. Previous to the move to "everything is an Intuos now (and the Intuos all become Intuos Pro because 'Pro')", that would have been the Bamboo Creative, and before that the Graphire. All of them are well more than good enough for the task at hand, and if you can pick up old stock (or used) cheaply, go for it. Note, though, that if…

Thank you!

Re: Ask HN: What collaborative whiteboard are you using?

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Here's the best set up I've used so far: 1) Get the cheapest iPad that supports the Apple Pencil. The 2018 non-Pro was this for me last I looked. 2) Get the Google Jamboard app (not the Jamboard hardware, it is not at all worth it). 3) Share the "jam" with yourself on a different device (a nearby laptop) 4) Screenshare the laptop. Things I think any virtual whiteboard scheme needs to have: 1) You need to be able to s…

Checkout doodledocs.com -- no account creation needed, front-end app only (it doesn't always work behind corporate wifi) It's nowhere near perfect, but it's open source and I'm open to any collaboration on it for fun (even a complete rewrite, I'm not a fan of EmberJS. I explored EmberJS with it). I'm currently noticing an eraser bug when you are in draw mode and they are in eraser mode (d'oh). I didn't know Jamboard…

Just curious, What’s not to like about ember?

Re: Ask HN: What collaborative whiteboard are you using?

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Thanks! Cofounder here, happy to answer any questions. While AWW has been around for some time we've seen a big surge (~6x) in the past two months due to current situation (as did most online/collaborative tools). While AWW can be used directly on site, we also have an embeddable version, for example some interviewing startups use us as part of their web-based interviewing workflows. Edit to add: AWW was launched her…

Thank you! Seriously AWW is an awesome app.

Second, awwapp is awesome

Re: Ask HN: What collaborative whiteboard are you using?

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Here's the best set up I've used so far: 1) Get the cheapest iPad that supports the Apple Pencil. The 2018 non-Pro was this for me last I looked. 2) Get the Google Jamboard app (not the Jamboard hardware, it is not at all worth it). 3) Share the "jam" with yourself on a different device (a nearby laptop) 4) Screenshare the laptop. Things I think any virtual whiteboard scheme needs to have: 1) You need to be able to s…

Checkout doodledocs.com -- no account creation needed, front-end app only (it doesn't always work behind corporate wifi) It's nowhere near perfect, but it's open source and I'm open to any collaboration on it for fun (even a complete rewrite, I'm not a fan of EmberJS. I explored EmberJS with it). I'm currently noticing an eraser bug when you are in draw mode and they are in eraser mode (d'oh). I didn't know Jamboard…

It’s not exactly mobile friendly. You should direct mobile users to use this on their desktop with some kind of alert.

Re: Ask HN: What collaborative whiteboard are you using?

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We use Miro for backlog grooming and idea visualization. The Jira sync is very helpful for us.

I've never used that feature. Can you describe your workflow for backlog grooming of Jira issues in Miro?

So what we do is importing Jira issues to a Miro board using the Miro Card for Jira plug-in. The development team orders them by difficulty/size horizontally. PO orders them by value vertically. We use that every couple sprints to visualize the overall shape of the backlog. Stories are updated from Miro directly, if necessary.

We are currently thinking about keeping Jira issues permanently on a board and then update them, rather than pulling them in just for ordering

Re: Ask HN: What collaborative whiteboard are you using?

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My mom is a retired teacher, and she's been doing remote preK for my 5yo and my niece for a couple of hours a day so the grownups can get work done. Evaluating whiteboards for a 60-year-old and two 5-year-olds to use together with video chat was.... not super fun.

What we've settled on:

We do the video chat on an old fullscreen iMac we had lying around. My mom and each kid all have their own iPads. For the first couple of weeks we used a webwhiteboard, but the littles were having a LOT of trouble with it. It's not optimized for iPads. It's easy to click on links in the nav. Different size screens see different regions of the whiteboard. My niece and son kept clearing each other's work and causing fights.

I ended up building a little prototype for them with rails/websockets that tried to solve all the dumb stuff that makes it hard to use it on iPads. Apple really doesn't make it easy, though. You can bookmark a page to your homescreen to get rid of the Safari chrome (URL bar is the worst for 5yos), but then you can't have cookies and regular usage (maybe just while fullscreen?) will prompt you that the webpage is trying to steal your passwords (fake keyboard warning). Guided access gets rid of most of the obnoxious gestures they were triggering by accident. I disabled most of the multi-touch events in javascript.

I fixed the board size with selectable orientation (portrait/landscape) and set it to scale + aspect-fits to everyone's device. I added a simple host/guest permission model so my mom has a few teacher permissions that the kids don't have. She can either be in teacher mode (she can draw/clear, they can't), class mode (anyone can draw/clear), or student mode where each kid gets their own private board that she can swap between (she can still draw/clear on student boards).

I was starting to work on more teaching features -- the ability for her to save/load sketches so she could do lesson plans ahead of time, the ability for her to "broadcast" saved boards to the student boards so she could make assignments for each 5yo to fill out. We had kind of a rough stretch where one of the kids or the other would forget their tablet for about a week, though, and my mom got fed up and just ordered them workbooks for all 3 of them that they could do together.

It's still running on Heroku, but I haven't been working on it much lately.

http://yiayiaboard.herokuapp.com/rooms/sLZqbw2KHWi

I think this is the right model for small-class whiteboards, but I think you'd have to build a native solution to make it usable for kids that small.

When it worked, it was pretty magical!

Re: Ask HN: What collaborative whiteboard are you using?

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room.sh co-founder here. Thanks! :) We've got loads of cool stuff on the horizon so stay tuned. That being said, happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.

As a suggestion, the website allows you to type a room name, which opens a new tab and asks you for the room name again, certainly the second step could be avoided.

The second step is asking for your name, not the room name, so that you can be identified by others in the room. But noted, there might be room to make that clearer!

Re: Ask HN: What collaborative whiteboard are you using?

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Checkout doodledocs.com -- no account creation needed, front-end app only (it doesn't always work behind corporate wifi) It's nowhere near perfect, but it's open source and I'm open to any collaboration on it for fun (even a complete rewrite, I'm not a fan of EmberJS. I explored EmberJS with it). I'm currently noticing an eraser bug when you are in draw mode and they are in eraser mode (d'oh). I didn't know Jamboard…

Just curious, What’s not to like about ember?

It's not a framework optimized for canvas. Since this project is mostly based on HTML canvas, it doesn't jive well.
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